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4chan /pol/sters unimpressed with racist killer James Jackson’s body count

James Jackson: Not the hero /pol/ wants

Racist terrorist James Jackson — who has confessed to murdering an elderly black New Yorker as a sort of test run for a more dramatic act of mass murder — in many ways seems like 4chan’s /pol/ made flesh, a deeply alienated young white man driven by racist rage and, apparently, deep fears of sexual inadequacy.

So you might have expected that his dramatic hate crime might have won him nothing but warm huzzahs from the folks in /pol/. And, in one recent /pol/ thread, he did inspire some cheers.

“[A]ny dead n*gger is a good n*gger,” wrote one anon.”The only thing James did wrong was turning himself in,” another anon opined. And still another gave the killer props for his ” fashy hair do … 10/10.”

But others were less impressed.

“He didn’t think about the long term,” one critic complained

What has he even achieved? Not even a good kill count. Just One, Old, man. Now Brevik. Brevik was an hero my lad. Imagine working all that shit out then planning it. He was not wrong either. They were indoctrinating kids

Another scoffed, “how much intellect does it take to stab a homeless black guy?”

Some wondered why Jackson had targeted black men anyway — when the real enemy, in their minds, is the (((Jew))).

“With so many scum bags in the world, why throw your life away to kill one homeless nigger,” one asked. “Guy could have at least taken out a (((wall street banker)))”

“Jews want whites to fight blacks,” wrote another.

Not Jews
The threat is from above (((wall street))) not below as Jews want whites to believe.

Naturally, this being /pol/, there were more than a few who dismissed the whole thing as part of a devious conspiracy to make white racists look bad.

“False flag,” one charged.

Dude from n*gger central Baltimore goes to New York to kill blacks, takes the life of a single homeless and then gives himself up to police. Couldn’t be more obvious.

Another saw the CIA’s fingerprints on the murder.

>decide to kill blacks to prevent racemixing

>target one 60 year old black guy

I’m sorry but that shit REEKS of a CIA plant/psyop.

A few stray souls even suggested that, as one put it, “White Supremacy is foolish nonsense” and that murder is, you know, bad.

But some thought these sorts of condemnations were self-defeating.

The right always condemns the lunatic fringe on their side like how Richard Spencer got kicked out of CPAC, but the right is always labeled as nothing but violent lunatics.

Meanwhile, the left embraces their violent lunatics and puts them on a pedestal but the same media kike puppets never call out their own side, let alone refer to the left as a bunch of violent lunatics.

The only solution?

I think the right wing needs to start embracing their violent lunatics like the left does with theirs. They have nothing to lose because they’re already labeled by the media as a bunch of violent extremists anyway, and eventually, leftist teeth are going to have to start littering the streets.

Huh. I’m pretty sure that the right has been embracing its most violent members for some time. Anders Breivik, who murdered 77 people, most of them children, had more than a few defenders in the right wing of the manosphere — not to mention the Breivik fan further upthread.

These are ugly, ugly times.

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IgnoreSandra
5 years ago

@Dalillama:

Is there not a process for removing him from the cast over that kind of thing?

People have been removed from cast and banned from shows and parties over things. All of those people have been rapists, committed physical assault, or had multiple people complain about them. On my own, and I seem to be the only woman paying attention to his shit, I can’t get him removed from cast until after he attacks someone. Same with his two cis white dude minion-allies.

What I have done is lock him into a probationary status by voting against his inclusion into full cast every time it comes up, and citing my concerns. So if the director isn’t watching him very closely, then the director is not paying attention. He’s currently trying to be very outwardly nice to me, which doesn’t match who he is so I’m not buying it.

I’m concerned about pushing too far. It’s only been super recently that the director started using my right name.

Anyway, I’m not actually concerned about dying when this guy strikes. The only times we’re in the same spaces involve me being near a lot of people who dislike his shitheadery but don’t view him as the same threat I do. When he’s pulled shit there in the past, those people have backed me up. He’s a /polster, so he’s fundamentally a reactionary coward, and he won’t do what I’m certain he really wants to do to me if he thinks he’ll be fighting more than just me. This is why shutting down bigots in public spaces is super important. And also why parking next to other cast members is important.

It’s just my only experience with someone who admitted to being part of this cesspool, so I thought it was relevant.

Otrame
Otrame
5 years ago

@ Valentine

All good things get killed when mainstream tries to capitalise.

Or, As Paul Simon put it:

The music suffers,
The music business thrives.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

The thing to remember about Cable Street is that while it was the least unjustifiable form of violence, it was also the most illegal sort of violence. It was:

– Non-state violence carried out by (disproportionately underprivileged) private citizens;
– Wholly without state sanction;
– Instigated by a foreign-backed group which were at the time seen as the worst possible threat to civilisation;
– Against a group which had wide sympathy from amongst the more privileged members of society, even if they turned their nose up at them;
– Involved wholesale violence against the police, drawing in many people who didn’t care about opposing Fascism but wanted the opportunity to throw paving slabs at members of the Met.

Society at the time took the side opposite to that which we take today. The police got involved to protect the Fascists; many of the more establishment newspapers leapt to defend the Fascists, and the Communists who had been arrested were given harsh treatment even by 1920s slum dweller standards. It was widely held as an example of the violence that the Left would unleash on the nation, to the point that the Labour Party hurried to distance themselves from it.

It’s important to understand how shocking this was at the time. In modern-day terms, this is like a UKIP march being attacked by a British Muslim crowd instigated by the Daesh. It was wholly outside the Overton Window of the time.

I mention this not to damn the Communists and others who broke up the march; but as a caution to modern-day people who applaud the rioters from the safe distance of history when they would not have done so at the time. Morally, if your opinion on a particular act of violence changes depending on how close you are to it, you need to consider whether you’re impartial enough to be trusted with it.

Valentine
Valentine
5 years ago

@otrame

Just googled Paul Simon, turns out exactly not the music i like but still, put it better than i could

DanHolme
DanHolme
5 years ago

Re: ‘violence and the left’.

I have some experience of hunt sabotage, from way back in the day, and we were often portrayed as the ‘violent thugs attacking law abiding citizens’. I remember going to sab the Waterloo Cup in Southport (I think) back in the 90s, and at the protest afterwards we had a big argument with members of the League Against Cruel Sports – they considered our balaclavas/masks to be ‘too threatening’ and ‘making us look like terrorists’. To be fair, there were plenty of other sabs who thought similarly – I don’t think anyone ever wore a balaclava sabbing the Quorn hunt, which Prince Charles rode with, for fear of getting shot as a member of the IRA. However, this came not long after the following incident, and so we were a bit pissed off:

One day we were sabbing a well-known Shropshire hunt, and were mooching through some woodland (about six of us) trying to get back to the road and our van. I think we’d been tying gates shut to hold up the terriermen on Quad bikes, or something along those lines.

It didn’t work, anyway, because the bikes got through and one of them was ridden into me by two guys, one of whom had a pickaxe handle. He missed me but managed smack someone else on the arm. The whipper-in, meanwhile, who’d followed them, started whipping us from safe up on horse back until someone managed to get the whip out of his hands.

A bit of argy-bargy took place but by then the hounds had got in between us, making it difficult for the hunters to get close (the hounds were no danger to us), and we were able to retreat to the road and meet up with support. Police enthusiasm to investigate our claims was unforthcoming, to say the least, and the hunters were equally keen to say we’d started it. Certainly the next few times we went to that hunt we had some pretty unpleasant dealings with the ‘followers’ and game staff (the riders were never really the issue).

I think many people would say that some violence in self-defence might have been justified here, but I would argue:

1) There were a lot more of them than us, and we’d have got our heads more fully kicked in – as would any of the other sabs who’d come to help us (before getting arrested for our pains);

2) The next week, or month, that we came to sab this hunt, we’d have faced a lot more than pick axe handles, and the focus would have turned into ‘fighting the hunters’, not ‘saving the foxes’;

3) We’d still have got blamed for it anyway, not just by the hunt and their supporters, but also by the police, the media, and the more lightweight anti-hunt charities. Which would result in heavier-handed, more biased policing, more aggro from hunters, and more vilification of AR by pretty much all sides of the press – I don’t remember either the Guardian or the Independent being exactly glowing about sabbing in the 90s (this was the days of the GAndALF trial).

This is an argument we had a LOT at the time, by the way; it never really goes away.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@EJ(MJW)

drawing in many people who didn’t care about opposing Fascism but wanted the opportunity to throw paving slabs at members of the Met.

…I’m not sure I see the distinction? Especially in the context of the 1930s

CriticalDragon1177
5 years ago

Every single one of these people is sick!

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

@IgnoreSandra:
You sound like you’re really doing everything you can. If you pushed any harder then, as you point out, you might just end up alienating everyone.

All my support to you. I don’t know how you feel but you come across as a total badass, and a fantastic example to others.

@Dalillama:
There’s a very important distinction: if the Fascists hospitalised someone, they might go to jail.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@Critical

Every single one of these people is sick!

Eh… Comments policy

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@IgnoreSandra
I can’t say I’m surprised by the situation. Disappointed, but not surprised.

Otrame
Otrame
5 years ago

@ Valentine

He had LOTS of different styles of music since 1964 when his first album came out. At first he and Garfunkle were mostly considered “folk” but that changed over time.

To many of us, American Tune, written about 1974, seems damned prophetic, with far more import now than it did at the end of the “hippy” era. The image of the Statue of Liberty sailing away to sea hurts these days.

I think this is the first time he sang it in public.

Many’s the time I’ve been mistaken
And many times confused
Yes, and often felt forsaken
And certainly misused
But I’m all right, I’m all right
I’m just weary to my bones
Still, you don’t expect to be
Bright and bon vivant
So far away from home, so far away from home

And I don’t know a soul who’s not been battered
I don’t have a friend who feels at ease
I don’t know a dream that’s not been shattered
or driven to its knees
But it’s all right, it’s all right
We’ve lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the road
we’re traveling on
I wonder what went wrong
I can’t help it, I wonder what went wrong

And I dreamed I was dying
And I dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly
And looking back down at me
Smiled reassuringly
And I dreamed I was flying
And high up above my eyes could clearly see
The Statue of Liberty
Sailing away to sea
And I dreamed I was flying

We come on the ship they call the Mayflower
We come on the ship that sailed the moon
We come in the age’s most uncertain hour
and sing an American tune
But it’s all right, it’s all right
You can’t be forever blessed
Still, tomorrow’s going to be another working day
And I’m trying to get some rest
That’s all I’m trying to get some rest

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

Honestly I thought the “embracing of violence from the left” was about Che Guevara and shit.

But just like how people can’t let go of whatever feminist from the 60s and 70s, people can’t let go of Che Guevara as an example of evil leftist.

Ouroboros13
5 years ago

Sad, but so often true. I have no objection to things reaching a wider audience. I’m no gatekeeper and it’s great that other people get to enjoy. But so often, what made the original thing great in the first place is lost or diluted in the process.

That’s because companies copy the most surface level and iconic things of an artwork to market it while not bothering to think what made the art iconic in the first place.

Example from me: Romantic composers blindly copied the darkest-sounding and passionate parts of Beethoven’s music and the loud and furious parts of his playing style. But they never paid attention to the whole picture, they often loved the big picture of Beethoven’s music but never cared too much about small details and nuances in emotion.

More modern example: Hbomberguy’s video on The Killing Joke movie.

Ouroboros13
5 years ago

*Romantic composers were not a company or business. They were more like emo kids who think wearing clothes from Hot Topic and listening to Marylyn Manson makes them the deepest shit ever.

Marxist Thought-Criminal
Marxist Thought-Criminal
5 years ago

Getting dangerous,just look at these tweets and video by one of these polsters/alt-righters. Pinochet and Fascist admirer(confirmed by tweets). Guess what his trying to advocate for:

https://t.co/AjleoSX8P2

https://t.co/8S4AasQ2Oz

They have no right to even call themselves “libertarian” anymore, despite wanting to cling onto the term. Yep, the Alt-Right movement is confirmed Authoritarian-Right.

Also these guys just got ‘triggered’ & attacked a 10 year old boy, quite vile if you ask me. Just as soon as he mentioned a few words and terms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7bSqTyg28o

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