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Do women really enjoy sex, men who hate women ask

Not tonight
Not tonight

Ladies! Do you feel a bit twitchy? Is the hair on the back of your neck standing up? Don’t worry — that just means that Reddit’s MGTOWs are talking about you again.

On the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit the regulars are trying to figure out whether women enjoy sex as much as men. Or at all.

The general consensus? Women aren’t really into sex  — unless it’s with the mythical Chad Thunderc*ck.

“The more I learn about them,” writes original poster psychomantis01,

the stronger the impression I get that [women] are only really interested in childbearing, money, and companionship. It seems to me, as somebody here once put it, they are only really in love with the ‘idea of being in love’, and not in love with the actual man himself.

Spoken like a man who’s never spoken to a woman.

NuclearTruthBomb agrees.

If women actually loved sex as much as men, they’d be approaching men everywhere, watch porn everyday, and frequently visit male prostitutes.

Of course, they may swoon over the occasional Chad. But realize they are only turned on by upper echelon of men. We only need a woman to be attractive…if even that.

Zombocom1911 reports that women definitely don’t have any interest in having sex … with him:

Women are always saying they love sex but in my experience they are completely f**king frigid and really low sex drive unless you are already having sex with them. They never, ever really ACTIVELY pursue or initiate sex with a stranger because they really just don’t care about it, unless its to get something out of a man, like love, affection, dinners, cards, romance.

They are so completely disinterested in sex and stuck up about it , it makes me f**king sick. This is why they can charge such a heavy price for it, because they really don’t want it and really don’t need it.

A top 5% male like Chad Thundercock may have pussy literally thrown at him though. I am not him, so I wouldn’t know.

As Reddit’s MGTOWs see it, even if women aren’t into sex, it’s pretty much all they have to offer men. As Oldredder puts it:

Outside of sex women have nothing to offer. Most of what they talk about is completely boring, unintellectual or, worse, is catty nonsense and pride in being a cheating slut.

Bartand offers a similarly bitter take:

The only reason they enjoy sex at the beginning is because it is their only way to be loved since they have nothing else to offer. Then later she start to wonder if you like her for more than sex so she start to cut off sex.

As Flaye2 sees it, women use their lack of interest in sex as a weapon against men in the ongoing war of the sexes:

Women seem to have lower drives and they use that to control men. Wives would cut off the sex but at the same time not allow him to satisfy him urges elsewhere, that is evil.

But most of the regulars agree that women do get tingly for Chad.

“With men well above their sexual league, they unreservedly enjoy it,” writes feedmecarrots.

With men in their league, who they are using sex with as a manipulative tool, they can’t enjoy it. It is too much like work. 

Not all of the commenters are convinced that women hate sex.

“I’m kind of surprised reading the comments,” writes Antingly, one of the only contributors to the discussion who sounds like he might have actually had sex with an actual living human female.

Sure, some girls seem like they don’t enjoy sex that much, but, some girls will black out during an orgasm. I’m sorry, but I have never experienced anything like that – even when it was really good.

A fellow called givecake, somewhat unexpectedly, offers his fellow MGTOWs some tips in the fine art of lady pleasing.

If you ever wanted to please a woman sexually, it doesn’t hurt to stimulate all 3 areas at the same time.

In case any MGTOWs are reading this post, a quick reminder: The “3 areas” he’s speaking of are the right knee, the left nostril, and the visitors’ center at the Beaver Dam Rest Stop south of Owensboro, Kentucky.

beaverdam

Givecake continues:

Obviously, use your best hand for clitoral stimulation.

The clitoris can be found just inside the left nostril, if the woman in question is right-handed. If she’s left-handed, the clit will be located behind the information desk in the visitor’s center at the aforementioned Beaver Dam rest stop.

Don’t expect her to ever consider doing anything like this amount of work for you.

For one thing, most women don’t have arms long enough to reach all the way to Kentucky.

The MGTOW subreddit really is one of the saddest places on planet earth.

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Sedentary Reactionary
Sedentary Reactionary
5 years ago

Hold on, you mean to tell me that there are more than 3 places? You’ve only got one penis, how do they expect you to hit these various places with only one penis? And what the hell do are you supposed to with only two hands in this situation? This is way too confusing for me, I can’t blame them for thinking that women are incapable of orgasm. Women should come with manuals for this sort of thing; I mean really, what evolutionary purpose does it serve for women’s sexual gratification whatdoyoucallums to be so labyrinthine?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

This guy has got to be a Poe.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
5 years ago

Women should come with manuals

Women do sometimes “come” through “manuals”. Jebus.

But seriously though, let’s ban this guy now.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
5 years ago

@ John

Women should come with manuals

what evolutionary purpose does it serve for women’s sexual gratification whatdoyoucallums to be so labyrinthine?

You’re probably right. Surely those puns are not accidental 🙂

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

@Petal

No no no wait, I wanna know what the 3 places are first.

Also, seriously, he could add /s at the end of his posts and you wouldn’t see the difference. Hell if I hadn’t recognized the name from before I’d have assumed it was sarcasm !

This level of ignorance confines to genius. It’s brilliant.

@Mish

I didn’t even see those ! This is beautiful.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
5 years ago

Forgot to add

how do they expect you to hit these various places with only one penis?

Hitting people with one penis, or many, is generally not recommended – unless you ask first.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

That also goes for hitting them with two or more penes, by the way.

Sedentary Reactionary
Sedentary Reactionary
5 years ago

@Sinkable John

That’s sadly not the case; up until now, I actually thought that women had 3 locations for this sort of thing (google has brought up all sorts of things – clitoris, cervix (don’t know what it is), vagina, mouth/lips, neck, breast, nipples, ears). For a long time, I used to think that women peed out of their vaginas also, but apparently that isn’t true.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

Oh, I’d love to hear what the 3 areas are. And how many men have*. And why natural selection has anything to do with it.

Edit: *According to Sedentary Reactionary, that is.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

I started taking you seriously until the very last word. Dude, wanting to stay a virgin is fine. Describing it as “pure”, however, is not. There’s no virtue nor lack thereof in having or not having sex, bonds of marriage or not, etc.*

By the way what I meant by ignorance was the whole reference to evolutionary purposes of various erogenous zones. Long story short : there’s none. There might be evolutionary explanations though – I don’t know them.
ETA : Point is, there’s no need for them ! Be glad that sex is indeed such a complex and wonderful thing and that it has so much to offer. The learning curve is easy too. Ground rule being absolute consent – the rest you work out with your partner.

Now I advise you to google Sex 101 (but avoid Return of Kings results at all cost.)

This is me being friendly to a troll. Hope it doesn’t backfire horribly.

*You edited that part out before I could finish my post. Good ! You win 10 internet points. It’s good to correct your mistakes.

Sedentary Reactionary
Sedentary Reactionary
5 years ago

@Sinkable John

Alright, I wasn’t too far off: my initial suppositions lead me to believe that women were in position of 3 erogenous zones, those being the clitoris, vagina, and anus. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, but it looks like there are actually more than 3, so I guess I didn’t do so well either.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@Sedentary Reactionary
How do you not know what the cervix is? I’m seriously asking. Did you not pay attention in health and/or biology class? Did they not cover reproductive systems because of draconian rules? I can let the peeing through the vagina thing slide because I’ve had to explain it to other girls*, even though we had covered that part of the anatomy in class before, but not knowing what the cervix is? Seriously, how does that happen?

Edit: *I say girls here because this was back in elementary school.

Tessa
Tessa
5 years ago

David:

Brian, the censorship is to try to make the blog work-safe, though I’m not always consistent about it and I’m not sure it really matters?

Personally, when at work I’m less concerned about bad words than I am the big images of nazis and swastikas that have been in the title images a lot lately.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

(google has brought up all sorts of things – clitoris, cervix (don’t know what it is), vagina, mouth/lips, neck, breast, nipples, ears)

If Google has brought up all of these things, how are you not able to ask Google what the cervix is?

Sedentary Reactionary
Sedentary Reactionary
5 years ago

@kupo

Alright, so my initial calculations regarding women’s erogenous zones was erroneous in that I left out various things, while including one supposedly extraneous item (anus). It may be the case that my preliminary speculations regarding the nature of women’s anuses was based on the fact that I know men who enjoy being penetrated in the anus; naturally, I assumed that anuses serve roughly the same function in men that they do in women, so it must also be the case that women enjoy anal penetration. However, it appears that I am wrong! Men enjoy anal stimulation because they are in possession of a prostate, and women, sadly, are not. Thus, it would seem that women, by and large, do not enjoy anal stimulation to the same extent that some men do.

This reminds me of that time I tried to draw a vagina in the sand when I was a teenager and my friends laughed at me for fucking it up so badly.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

If only it was as simple as figuring out the erogenous zones though. I can think of a few people who’d be out of a job.

Long story short : people are all different. And yes, men too ! Incidentally, Robot Hugs posted a great comic recently that covers both the matter of consent, and how people are different and like different things.

Sex is not machinery. It’s not about mechanically going for supposed erogenous zones for max performance. That’d be called porn, and even that follows different rules that are tailored to accomodate a camera, and to aim at the largest audience. It’s something you figure out with experience and a lot of talking with your partner – ’cause, y’know, they’re still the one who know best what they actually enjoy.

Meektoes and PUAsshats give the worst possible advice, don’t listen to them.

ETA : Seriously though you might wanna work on your manners of speech, because no offense but at times you sound like a spaceship’s onboard AI right out of bad scifi.

Also, reconsider what you think about whether or not the anus counts in light of what I said about people being different. And ditch the biological essentialism ! It’s for your own good.

Sedentary Reactionary
Sedentary Reactionary
5 years ago

@Policy of Madness

I knew what the other things were at the time of the writing, but didn’t know what the cervix was. I’ve heard of it before, but have no idea what the basic function is (or where it is, exactly). I’ll research it later.

@kupo

I had to explain to my mother once what testicles are supposed to be good for (now that I think about it, I’m not sure that my explanation was one-hundred percent accurate). Most people in my area don’t even believe in evolution, and not too long ago I went to a store to buy something and the woman behind the counter started screaming about Sandy Hook being a hoax set up by Obama to take our guns and black people being violent because they’r the descendants of Cain; I don’t come from the most educated place on earth, I’m afraid. I think I’m doing pretty good just to know what I do know.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

I’d really recommend against trusting Google results. Maybe try some reliable sources instead. Some people without prostates can get pleasure from anal, but it is true that the prostate can be a big factor in anal pleasure. The cervix can be pleasurable for some people but that’s less common and for some it’s painful.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

I’ll research it later.

I want you to know that I’m laughing at you right now.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@Sexual Rookie

I’m a virgin, if that clarifies things (no shame in staying pure).

(No, I don’t care that you deleted that)
John already said it perfect about purity. Also, how the fuck old are you that you’re “staying pure”? It’s not at all rare for someone to have never had sex into their mid twenties. This always bugged me. Like, if you’re 40… But at 22 or whatever, you haven’t nearly earned a ‘purity’ badge

Secondly, virginity doesn’t mean you don’t know anything. I’m a virgin, yet I know how a cervix works and what erogenous zones are. You’re issue isn’t a lack of sex. It’s just ignorance. Even if you had found a ‘lucky’ girl to mess around with under the high school bleachers, you still wouldn’t know. It wasn’t important that you learn, and you weren’t interested in learning. That’s all fine. Plenty of things I haven’t ever felt the need to study. Just don’t (indirectly) blame others for your ignorance

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
5 years ago

In the last thread SR was in, he was playing the role of a more intellectual than thou philosopher. Now he’s lulz trolling about how OMG scary and complicated cis women’s bodies are?

Dude, get your trolling method straight!

Since you’re here though, I’m wondering what specific time and place is the ideal that we should emulate. Which monarchy was the best to live under?

And are you by any chance a gender studies student who wants to be a professor and teach MGTOW 101?

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
5 years ago

I’ve heard of it before, but have no idea what the basic function is (or where it is, exactly). I’ll research it later.

What is it with this guy needing months of research and pondering for really simple things?

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/046/401/mag271129017390.jpg

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
5 years ago

Whoa. That was weird. I posted an image and nothing happened.

Trying again.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/046/401/mag271129017390.jpg

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

Just don’t (indirectly) blame others for your ignorance

That’s an excellent start for just about anything. Incidentally, it’s one of the main problems with MGTOW.

@WWTH

You just made me realize that I was going full Scildfreja. I swear I can hear her smirking right now.

LindsayIrene
5 years ago

On women, anal penetration can stimulate the internal clitoral structure–the thing in yellow:

http://www.clitoraid.org/e107_images/newspost_images/sonogram.jpg
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Also, external anal stimulation is a thing.

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