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Today will go down in history as a dark day for manbabykind. For today, the lady Ghostbusters trailer dropped. And there was much wailing and tweeting of tweets.
Let’s take a stroll amongst the wailing manbabies on Twitter, indulging their ridiculous rants.
And then let’s talk about what’s really wrong with the Ghostbusters trailer, which has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with race.
First, the manbabies:
There were those who pulled out the old “my childhood has been raped” nonsense.
https://twitter.com/M_Stewarr/status/705445173568868352
So my childhood has been officially raped now… #Ghostbustershttps://t.co/vrQ2jmwDc4
— Dat Dragons Dude (@dragonsfan1988) March 3, 2016
There were those who strenuously insisted that their anger at the female Ghostbusters had nothing whatsoever to do with misogyny, nuh-uh, but was rather a reaction to the trailer’s objective terribleness.
Anyone else not impressed with the new #Ghostbusters trailer? (No feminazi's its not because i hate women)
— Ryan (@DeeTownn) March 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/katmereMUFC/status/705463502278959108
There were the fat-shamers, because at no point in history has a fat person ever been funny.
New ghostbusters movie has that annoying white fat lady. Not interested, I'm shitting all over it! #Ghostbusters
— 8Bit (@The8BitVillain) March 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/NerdzurK1/status/705500568035397636
@voxday gender aside, original Ghostbusters at least weren't fat
— Константин Мокин (@goga002) March 3, 2016
My Ghostbusters have dicks. Long, swinging, dicks. They're also funny. These Ghostbusters have big fat sweaty vaginas and are not funny.
— Matty Almeida (@MattyCat24) March 3, 2016
There were Trump fans:
https://twitter.com/easternmney/status/705506566758383618
https://twitter.com/jaesex23/status/705499814415486977
Hell, there were so many Trump fans that one observer made a helpful Venn diagram:
https://twitter.com/BCDreyer/status/705475020076785665
There were even a few Knights Who Say Cuck:
https://twitter.com/kcD___/status/705472132185202688
Some raised the specter of WHITE GENOCIDE:
https://twitter.com/TheSamGrady/status/705434158152224772
https://twitter.com/TheSamGrady/status/705496761662578689
Some worried where the evil feminazis would strike next:
https://twitter.com/garmonbozia/status/705427963789979648
Others offered somewhat less comprehensible critiques:
#Ghostbusters, a new scapegoat for idiot hipster trash and feminazi garbage, fuck this obvious PC toilet fest.
— Rob Grundy (@Officer_Grundy) March 3, 2016
One Tweeter summed up the day on Twitter with a little haiku:
https://twitter.com/luketunderwood/status/705500826580594688
And another Tweeter left us with this existential question:
https://twitter.com/cleotrav/status/705505847129022464
Still another raised the possibility of a second reboot with a rather different cast:
Already working on a new new Ghostbusters that is played entirely by my favorite versions of Kurt Russell from every decade.
— ozempic godskin noble (@hamsandcastle) March 3, 2016
And this guy helped us put it all in perspective:
https://twitter.com/GregorySantos/status/705462910714183680
So what happens once we step back from all the manbaby whining, and the jokes about the manbaby whining. and actually watch the trailer? Well, be my guest:
I don’t know about you, but I’m a bit underwhelmed.
There are a few funny moments, but the trailer sort of steps on them. It’s hard to tell if this is a terrible trailer for a good film, or if the Ghostbusters reboot will end up being, well, basically a female version of Adam Sandler’s godwful Pixels.
But the really distressing thing that the trailer reveals is that the three white gals in the movie are the scientists, while Leslie Jones’ Patty is relegated — or so it seems from the trailer — to the tired, stereotypical role of sassy black sidekick who may not be educated but who “knows the streets.”
This racial/racist failure has not exactly gone unnoticed; it’s already inspired thinkpieces and polemics on sites ranging from The Root to The Inquisitr, as well as in innumerable Tweets.
The original Ghostbusters, however hallowed it has become, was infamous for a similar racial failure. That movie’s “black ghostbuster,” played by Ernie Hudson, was so forgettable, and so obviously a token, that the designer simply left him off of this recently reworked Ghostbusters poster featuring his three white comrades.
Despite all the complaints by angry manbabies about the gender-swap of the main characters, it may well turn out that the real problem with the film isn’t that it’s too radically different from the original, but rather that it is too similar — at least in its inability to imagine a black character as more than a token or a stereotype.
The one thing that gives me some hope is Jones herself, an amazing comedian who may have been able to transform her character into something more nuanced and less stereotypical than what we see in the trailer.
I guess we’ll see.
I like the fact they are women. Cool change up. But yes very unfortunate about the “sassy black mama” thing. Here’s hoping it’s decent
I watched the whole trailer waiting for something, anything, recognizably Egyptian to show up.
Winston seems like a token in the original, but that’s probably more due to bad casting; the part was written for Eddie Murphy, but between the writing and casting, Murphy became an action-comedy superstar. In that context the character makes a lot more sense; he’s supposed to be the down-to-earth everyman, and make sarcastic commentary about the eggheads. You can imagine him selling a line like “I’ve seen things that would turn you white”, which Ernie Hudson kind of couldn’t pull off.
So, I’m keeping an open mind and looking at Leslie Jones that way, as more of an analogue to the Winston that Eddie Murphy could have been.
Also, I have high hopes for Kate McKinnon in this. I think this may be the start of a big career for her.
(Just to clarify — I said in my last comment that I think Ernie Hudson’s casting is the reason why Winston seems like a token character, because I suspect that — when they saw that he didn’t have the comic chops for a part written for Eddie Murphy — they cut a lot of his dialogue. Hudson is decent in serious supporting roles, but he can’t stand in for early-80s Eddie Murphy. I mean, who can?)
shut up you over aged baby. it sucks because of sexism against men. no one cares why you think it is racist. grow up.
The trailer was quite interesting, so maybe it won’t be that much worse than the two original films. The “sassy black streetwise woman” character could be problematic, but doesn’t have to, it all depends on how they handle things in the real movie.
@Tragedy of the Commas March 5, 2016 at 1:27 am
That may be an overdose of optimism, but IF that it’ll true, than it’d be awesome! An openly lesbian character in a blockbuster? That’d be very noice! But even if there will be an openly lesbian character, remember how few films there are, where openly gay/lesbian characters are allowed to have a happy ending with relationship, sanity, pulse and so on intact? The “Bury Your Gays” exist for a reason and I very much hope, that it’ll be avoided here.
Um no, it has nothing to do with racism you fat whale. It’s glorifying misandrism and ugly fat people. Fuck everyone who thinks its misogynism, you’re part of the problem.
“It’s glorifying misandrism” Because women exist in it.
“and ugly fat people” Because fat people exist in it and aren’t portrayed only as jokes and subhumans.
Weaaaaak. Can’t you at least spew some gendered slurs? #TheTriggering was more offensive than you.
you know there are a lot of critics from women ghost busters fans criticizing the movie as a bad movie and in no way representative or respectful of the source material that is Ghost Busters. THEIR childhood too has been “raped” And you can’t use the gender card to get away from THEIR evaluations. Having said that the trailer now has over 400,00 dislikes But I am sure in your world view ALL of those dislikes come from “man babies, Trump supporters, and sexists of all ages!” well sometimes you should just quit while you’re ahead because I predict that the number of dislikes is just going to increase over time and not because of the “Racism” that’s supposedly exists either. It’s because this movie has nothing to do with Ghost Busters. Any real fan will explain it to you if you have not seen the original movies.
Whether the movie ends up being any good or not, nobody’s childhood has been raped by a movie remake. Fuck off with that.
Oh, how did I miss this fabulous necro?
Caring about racism = childish and silly
Calling the mere existence of women in a movie franchise sexist against the men who already have, what was it again? 75% of speaking roles in movies? = TOTALLY LEGIT COMPLAINT
Trolls with factually inaccurate arguments, disingenuous attempts at identity politics, and narrow-minded gatekeeper logic?
Eff that! Here’s Pepsiman!
C’mon everybody! Let’s dance to the deliciousness!
PEPSIMAAAAAAAAN!
I always love it when MRAs can’t spell their own made-up buzzwords.
Honestly, it’s their third most-used word after “Females” and “C**t,” you’d think they’d pick it up subconsciously after seeing it for the 34290854397th time that day.
You mean the movie that isn’t out yet, and has only had one or two trailers?
No it hasn’t. The original movies still exist. No one retconned a childhood and made it so the original movies still exist.
My childhood wasn’t ruined because of Michael Bay’s TMNT movie, no one’s childhood is going to be ruined over this.
Then again, if all it takes is one movie to “ruin your childhood” then your childhood most likely sucked.
(“The Gender Card”? Really?) So you do agree that a lot of hatred for this movie stems from sexism?
Well, you know what they say about assuming, right? It makes an ass out of “u”, though not “me”, because I’m just laughing.
No one here said that everyone who dislikes the movie is sexist. We’re saying that people kvetching about women Ghostbusters solely because they’re women are sexist.
Way 2 Strawman.
“I don’t see it, so it’s not real! I can’t disprove it exists, but I still think you’re wrong!”
So, Rob’s most likely a white dude (who is also most likely cisgendered and heterosexual). Got it.
WOW. That’s some grade-A Mansplaining and Gatekeeping right there. What an absolute turnip. I almost pity you for your need for exclusion against people who like the same things you do. But I don’t. Because turnip.
And what a grand assumption that none of us have seen the movies (or read the comics, or seen any of the TV shows) and aren’t “real fans” (I suppose that means you’re all figments of my imagination), and another grand assumption that you know what the movie’s all about from a trailer.
Tsk, tsk, Rob. Tsk, tsk.
I’m 35 years old and I bet most of the men complaining about this ruining their childhoods are younger than that. Meaning, I probably saw Ghostbusters before they did. In some cases, before they were even born. They think feeemales only started getting into geeky things a few years ago when it started to become cool, so they try gatekeeping movies and games against women who have been into them years, if not decades longer. It’s hilarious.
Shit, the DVD case is literally less than three feet away from me right now. Unless my silly little ladybrainz are imagining things, I suppose.
To be honest I thought the trailer itself was quite good, certainly worth a download
As for the comments though, putting the obvious loons aside many of the others just read as tongue in cheek humour and the rest are no different to any other criticism when an iconic film is remade but deviates from the original dynamic
If someone remade salt in 30 years with a male leading role I guarantee that (by then) 58th wave feminists would be throwing themselves off buildings in protest claiming misogyny “made” them do it all the way to the ground
If someone remade the sum of all fears and replaced morgan freeman with a white man, or white woman then black activists would be crying that its a slight on black people everywhere
Objectively I have to be honest though and say that I really cant see WHY someone even has to do it. It would have taken very little imagination to have made it a spin off, the daughters of the original people having to dust off their fathers equipment to deal with a NEW infestation or something along those lines.
So yeah, even with the nutters I can see to some extent what their objection is really although its just as likely to be due to the current trend of utter laziness and half assed movie creation in the film industry rather than feminists wanting to try and poke a stick in the eye of all men who liked the original film first time round. And as with most things its probably a mixture of the two to some extent rather than being exclusively just one or the other
Although I would guess the laziness angle takes the lions share of the blame
I’ve been so very disappointed by the stereotypical characterization of Patty to the point that I can’t even see myself sitting through this movie on television or Netflix. It may be Jones’ style, but that doesn’t make it any less troubling. It’s not only groan-inducing in its utter lack of freshness, but it makes me uncomfortable, Jones’ (somewhat feeble, I think) defense on Twitter notwithstanding.
The character is a walking pile of worn-out tropes. No matter how well Jones plays those tropes, they’re still tired—and racist.
Who thought this was a good idea?
Manbabies? Good god your misandry is oozing.
Trying to insult or undermine either a mans maturity or his masculinity has always been both the main and most commonly used weapons in womens arsenal
Well, when they cant use childish strops or with holding sex to get their own way of course lol.
And considering that complaining about irrelevant or imaginary nonsense seems to be womens main hobby nowadays its quite laughable to see them expend so much energy on criticising other peoples complaining.
Its on a par with the level of hypocrisy and stupidity needed for America to criticise the actions of Israel considering how they got THEIR country to begin with lol
Get your bingo cards out, everyone. Another idiot is here to say the same crap as all the others.
So, a bunch of manbabies whining about a movie having girl cooties is evidence of feeemaale hypocrisy and evilness? Seems legit.
Also, I think Mikey here missed the fact that the author of this blog is a man.
And I just realized that this was a thread necro. Why not whinge in the current Ghostbusters thread?
Not to spam this thread or anything, but I just scrolled up and realized that Mike already necro’d this thread two months ago. Did he forget to put up an “already been drive by trolled” checkmark on WHTM or something?
@wwth
I saw that too. I guess he didn’t get any attention for the last comment, so he had to come back and say basically the same thing again. :p