Some married men like to jokingly refer to their wife as “the boss,” generally in a patronizing manner that suggests she’s nominally in charge of the boring everyday stuff in the household that he doesn’t really care about anyway.
But our old nemesis Vox Day isn’t having any of it. To refer to your wife as the boss, even as a joke, is to threaten to loose the forces of anarchy and chaos and feminism upon your family. Also, women are dogs. On his Alpha Game blog, he writes,
If you let a dog think he’s the boss, he will cease to defer to you and begin objecting, violently, when you interfere with what he now believes are his prerogatives. Women are no different.
That’s right. Give in an inch to your wife, and the next thing you know she’ll be sitting on the furniture and insisting on eating “people food” at the table.
It’s a tad ironic that Vox here has decided to degrade women by comparing them to dogs, when his whole “alpha” schtick is based on misguided notions about the behavior of “alpha dogs” and wolves.
It’s one thing to turn over your social calendar to your wife due to a lack of interest in the various social obligations of the family. But checking in to see if there is scheduling conflict, or simply being courteous enough to see if your wife minds if you go to the football game does not make you an employee or a child. Therefore, it does not make her the boss. And what might have been an ironic jest in the days of Mad Men is often taken quite literally now.
Marriage: an endless power struggle in which the wife must always lose.
What a lovely vision of the world!
I should also add that you should never ever, even jokingly, refer to Bruce Springsteen as “the boss” either, because if you do he’s going to be hounding you to hand in your TPS reports and forcing you to work on Saturdays. You don’t want that.
EDITED TO ADD: In the comments on Alpha Game, cailcorishev expands a bit on the whole “women-as-dogs” thing in what he evidently thinks is a humorous way:
Since you mentioned dogs: virtually everything about disciplining a dog and being the pack leader applies to leading a woman (or children). I’m convinced that, if you took a woman on a 45-minute walk every day, as Cesar Millan recommended for dogs, it would eliminate a lot of her problems. Just make sure you lead her, having her take your arm and follow you where you want to go — or use a leash if she’s into that kind of thing.
I can only hope his wife — if there is an unfortunate woman holding this position — pees on the rug and chews up all his important paperwork.
Thanks, Ashley, for using the same tired ass line our trolls do when people tell them to stop ableist shit. You’re an asshole.
But even thought Ashley has proven herself a jackass, I’m not sure if bringing up other threads on other blogs is the way to go.
Back on topic: can we be some other kind of animal to these guys? I’m tired of being a dog.
@ Diana which kind of just proves that women are equally capable but have been kept out of the professions men deem important which results in more “important” inventions/accomplishments by men
I’ve heard of the programming, but not this. When was this?
Call me a troll. Call me an asshole. I don’t care. If my comment personally offends someone, I would have no problem offering an apology if that’s what they told me. I could tell certain people to “just stop it” with certain comment on here every day, but I don’t. What right would I have?
For example, it calling someone stupid any more PC than my original comment? Because if you think it is, you’re wrong. But whatever. I’m an asshole so why should I give a shit?
You’d think they’d latch on to cats instead. Aloof, notorious for not doing what they’re told, demanding, lazy…
Then again there is that “won’t do what they’re told no matter how mean you are to them” issue, which doesn’t really fit the MRA narrative.
Ashley, there are a lot of people here who would prefer it if you (or, well, anyone who comments here) didn’t use “crazy” or “chemical imbalances of the brain” or similar terms when referring to someone who has terrible or ludicrous and/or misogynistic views. You may not find these words problematic yourself, but out of respect to them I would suggest that you find other terms to use.
David, not a problem. I extend my apologies to anyone offended.
I feel like this is getting unnecessarily heated in here. I prefer neutral terms like “asshat”. Everybody has an asshole and lots of people, maybe everyone at some point, wears hats.
I thought it was okay to bring up because I’m generally annoyed by cissexist folks freely hanging out in a trans-friendly space (even if no one knows those people are cissexist). And I’ve seen other regulars here do very similar things for reasons similar to mine without being called out for doing so. But if it was inappropriate for me to bring up that thread, I apologize to Ashley.
reading the rather anti trans comments form Ally S’ link……………..I know this is super childish……BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE SO MEAN???????
Like I don’t know how you can be all about equal rights and not forcing people to adhere to a set of characteristics just because they where born with one kind of body AND then turn around and police people’s identity based on their bodies? Like do you have some kind of chemical imbalance in your brain that prevents you from seeing the hypocrasy in that? (ZINGGGGGGGGGGGG)
Disclaimer: this post contains poorly executed satire and may not reflect the opinions of the writer
Ally: that wasn’t a call out. I just figured there’s enough material right here.
I’m hoping that if any of the anti-trans stuff comes up here it won’t take David coming in and saying “knock it off” himself for Ashley to accept the fact that the community here doesn’t tolerate that shit.
I want to draw people’s attention to Molly Ren’s comment above about her missing friend and to encourage people to spread the word about him.
Molly, so sorry to hear about this, I really hope he’s ok, and obviously there is no problem with you posting this here.
MollyRen I posted your article on my FB. I don’t have many friends state side, but I figure it can’t hurt. I hope they find him alright.
I saw it (David) my thoughts and prayers go to him and his loved ones .Praying that he’s O.K and finds his way home soon .((((HUGS))))
I’ll post the links on my FB wall.
🙁 I’m sorry Molly. *offers hugs*
On topic: So… women are dogs, but dogs are men’s best friend, so does that mean that misogynists are cats?
Oh gods no. I want to be the cat.
@this one is between perspectives
What people have been doing is putting their FB posts about Robert on “public” and giving the post hashtags like #maryland #baltimore #dc. I’m not a FB expert but I think that will help the maximum number of FB peeps see it.
@David Futrelle Thanks! 😀
@MollyRen: Prayers and good thoughts for your friend. Please let us know how things turn out.
That’s a good idea Molly .I was thinking all my friends (most) are in Texas or the South.But I was thinking maybe they could post it too and their friends etc..Putting it public will help even more.
” Well, bring it. You got any “statistically proven facts” that women are dogs who need a strong and domineering man to lead them or else they piddle on the carpet? I don’t think you do. In fact, I know you don’t.”
No really, bring it. My offer to debunk their shit and teach them real maths still stands.
Howard Mercury — you made enough sense for me to follow what you meant. Don’t worry about it, we get regulars, myself included, posting while drunk or tired and not making perfect sense. We’re pretty good at figuring out what was meant 🙂
“This is David’s site. If he has a problem with my comments, then he can say something to me. But I won’t be told what to do by other commenters,”
Anyone else sick of this?
Re the OP — a 45 minute walk with your partner is actually a decent idea. If you spend it talking and connecting with each other and such. Also, TMI…I’m up for being walked on a leash, done it before even! (I fit in a kitty collar ^.^ )
‘I’ve heard of the programming, but not this. When was this?’
Some 150 years ago.
‘The Science Education of American Girls: A Historical Perspective (Studies in the History of Education)’
The Science Education of American Girls provides a comparative analysis of the science education of adolescent boys and girls, and analyzes the evolution of girls’ scientific interests from the antebellum era through the twentieth century. Kim Tolley expands the understanding of the structural and cultural obstacles that emerged to transform what, in the early nineteenth century, was regarded as a “girl’s subject.” As the form and content of pre-college science education developed, Tolley argues, direct competition between the sexes increased. Subsequently, the cultural construction of science as a male subject limited access and opportunity for girls.
When I first read this post, all I could picture was a cartoon of a stereotypical 1950s “housewife” complete with curlers, house dress and mule type slippers, chasing cars down the street while her husband stands on the front steps shouting “Mildred! Get back here! Right NOW!”
It amused me far too much.
Far far too much.
I just hope that taking your MRA for a walk doesn’t mean that you have to pick up his poop.
Poor Ted. SFWA gave him the boot and he can’t find an audience outside of his blog or the manosphere. It’s gotta sting. Heh!