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Speaker at Men’s Rights RALLY OF THE CENTURY in Toronto calls on MRAs to take up arms against “communism”

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Dean Esmay rallies the troops in Toronto

So, it finally happened. The men’s rights lecture and rally in Toronto that A Voice for Men have been breathlessly promoting for weeks — in no less than 17 separate posts — have both come to pass. Men’s Rights celebrities flew in from across the continent to attend the exciting events. Paul Elam was there! So was Karen Straughan! Even Dan Perrins made an appearance! (Oh, wait, I think he lives around there.)

In a post-rally post, AVFM’s Robert O’Hara declared the “Historic MHRA rally in Toronto” to have been a “huge success.”

Well, you can be the judge of that. Go here to watch some actual footage of the event. (Sorry, I can’t get it to embed here.) So far I’ve only watched the final 8-minute video at the top of the page, but it’s pretty revealing in and of itself. The event organizers almost outnumber the sparse crowd. And one of the speakers calls for MRAs to take up arms against their “communist” opponents. No, really, just watch.

In case the video gets pulled, or censored, I’ve taken the liberty of transcribing his remarks: :

There’s an organization out there called communism, and the communist manifesto says that the first thing they have to do is take over power. And they’ll never get elected. And they know that they’ll never get elected. So what they do is they say “we have to take power by violent methods,” right, so if you want to crack back against these people, I hate to say it, but you’ve gotta be prepared to pick up a gun and put down the books.

Emphasis mine.

Someone in the audience responds to this with a hearty “yep!” There’s a smattering of applause, mixed with boos. AVFM’s Dean Esmay hurridly ushers the speaker away from the microphone.

The speaker who follows Esmay — I didn’t catch his name — describes the counterprotesters (who held their own rally nearby) as being of “the hammer and sickle” and denigrates them as “queers.”

This isn’t so much history being made as history repeating itself. I suspect the rhetoric was similar at a lot of White Citizen Council rallies in the sixties.

Oh, and the HISTORIC LECTURE that so many MRAs were hoping and dreaming that feminists would disrupt? Feminists ignored it. Apparently, according to one MRA on Reddit who claimed to have been there, a little more than a hundred people showed up.

Congratulations, A Voice for Men, on your FLAWLESS VICTORY!

I’ll watch as much of the rest of the rally as I can force myself to sit through, and add anything else worth adding.

EDITED TO ADD: I watched the video that covered the rest of the rally. It was pretty uneventful: a low energy, sparsely attended rally with a bunch of half-assed speeches. Apparently no one at A Voice for Men or CAFE, the co-host of the rally, bothered to prepare anything to say — perhaps because they were all expecting some sort of feminist riot? The “pick up a gun” speaker wasn’t one of the scheduled speakers, just someone they gave the microphone to when he raised his hand after the scheduled speakers were done.

One moment that did stand out: a trans man — apparently a member of CAFE — briefly took the mic, taking offense at the chants from the counterprotestors calling MRA’s “anti-gay.” I would suggest he take a look at AVFM’s not-so-proud history of homophobia and transphobia.

EDITED TO ADD AGAIN: Here’s a picture of the event from Civilian Media. You can almost taste the excitement! From left, Nick Reading of Men’s Rights Edmonton, Dean Esmay of AVFM, the legendary Paul Elam (looking a little bewildered), and two other dudes. Paul evidently HEARTS Fucking Their Shit Up. Oh, Paul, we HEART U!

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Alice Sanguinaria
8 years ago

baileyrenee – I guess that’s comforting, a little. We’re not screwing up too much, even if for the moment we probably feel really useless in a movement that’s bigger than ourselves.

Athywren – True, it depends on your frame of reference.

marci
8 years ago

I’m sorry I didn’t mean that to be shaming to anyone’s actual looks, just their terrible choices in wardrobe. I blame Wal-Mart.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Is the shorter guy in the background the one who comments here sometimes, who looks like the guy with the hilarious YouTube rant about how women are evil for not liking it when men get skidmarks?

marinerachel
marinerachel
8 years ago

I don’t like it when I get skidmarks either, How is that evil?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Not wanting to wash some guy’s stained underpants is misandry, apparently, as is preferring men who manage to avoid the problem in the first place.

lionicle
8 years ago

LOL, it seems like half the people are just there to document the spectacle. Probably film students at the school thinking it would be a funny doc.

I wish I could read this sign better, omgcomment image

They made a mistake rallying outside where nobody can pull the fire alarm. Their only angle is that people are trying to “censor” their message. When they actually spit it out they have nothing to say.

marinerachel
marinerachel
8 years ago

Pardon me for preferring a Mr. Poopypants who washes his own britches.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Ah, found it!

marinerachel
marinerachel
8 years ago

Fuuuuuuuuuck.

lionicle
8 years ago

this twitter

https://twitter.com/grenouf/status/383985216949592064/photo/1

shouldn’t the claim of memorial desecration be proven by a photo of it actually happening??

lionicle
8 years ago

This video is impossible. So much distortion. Painful.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

I wish I could read this sign better, omgcomment image

Funny how it seems like a large number of the “choices for women” on that sign seem to be variations on the theme of “just give the baby away!” and a large number of the choices for men are utterly absent – men can adopt, use a surrogate, have sex exclusively with infertile women, or women who are already pregnant. It’s not just condoms, surgery, abstinence or death, guys! Anyway, is a vasectomy really that invasive? I mean, ok, it’s not somewhere I want anyone putting knives, but does it really classify as invasive? When I think invasive surgery, I think of triple heart bypasses… lung transplants… spleen redecoration… not so much an incision and two snips.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

Oh, and re skidmarks…. you know that paper stuff that you hear about? Umm… try using it. The probability of skidmarks being absent goes from 0.01% to 99.9% with just that simple action.

lionicle
8 years ago

@Athywren When you consider the woman’s surgical options, a vasectomy sounds like a day in the park to me.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I guess toilet paper must be misandry too.

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Yes, Prague. I could never make it far past the damned cell you wake up in!

As for that sign, I can’ tread all of it, but what I can make out…

Choice for men is no choice!

Women’s choice:
Abstinence
Diaphragms (I think)
Condoms
Spermicides
“The pill”
Injections
Implants
“Overnight pill” (this makes no sense, but it looks to be what it says)
Intrauterine device
Abortion
Adoption
Return baby to hospital
Keep baby
Give baby away
Sell baby
Contract to have baby
Auction baby
Name any man she wants as the father
Infanticide

Men’s choice:
Condoms
Invasive surgery
Cash
Credit
Bankruptcy
Prison
Suicide
Abstinence*

*n/a because of paternity fraud (I think)

National Coalition For Men — http://www.ncfm.org

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

This translation brought to you by that being how I see without my glasses.

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Oh and of the women’s choices…3 are legal ways to give baby away // adoption // return baby to hospital (dude, afaik if she does that there’ll be an ad in the legal papers seeking the father to ask if he wants custody)

Three are illegal ways to get rid of the baby — sell, auction and kill. And wtf does surrogacy have to do with any thing? And more importantly, why is it not an option for men? They can find a surrogate, in fact, sperm is required for surrogate pregnancy!

Often Partisan
Often Partisan
8 years ago

“This isn’t so much history being made as history repeating itself.”

I think on this occasion we can safely say: “Once as tragedy, again as farce….” 😉

Oh wait…being as that was said by Karl Marx I better go get my hammer and sickle and destroy Western Civilisation or something…

Often Partisan
Often Partisan
8 years ago

@ Argenti: “And wtf does surrogacy have to do with any thing? And more importantly, why is it not an option for men? They can find a surrogate, in fact, sperm is required for surrogate pregnancy!”

Obviously it’s because only women and their eeeeeeeeevil hormones want baaaaaaaaaaaaaaabies….probably so they can trick a man muahahahahaha!

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Ah yes, that’s right. No man, ever, has ever wanted kids, just teh sex.

How could I have ever forgotten that there are exactly zero men who are overjoyed to be fathers? I mean, not like my FB feed doesn’t have at least three of them! (It is so very weird that my friends are reproducing, it’s all like “dude, you were an awesome MDMA connection, wtf do you mean you’ve spawned?!”)

Oh, duh, wow Argenti.

Falconer! You don’t exist! You’ve just been tricked into fatherhood by EBIL lady hormones!

lionicle
8 years ago

“Name any man she wants as the father”
“Auction baby”

LOL.

Spermicide and infanticide are exclusively women’s choices? Anyone can murder an infant and spermicide is something a man can buy and bring to the sex.

I don’t understand how MRA’s don’t get that their choices are simply limited by the fact that they are not carrying the fetus. There is nothing that a man can take that will retroactively to his own body to make his sperm invalid. That’s just biology guys. I’m sorry. I only wish my body was not the one that would have to endure an abortion or birth in the event I got pregnant. Not having to worry about that…. I can’t even imagine how wonderful that must me.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Babies! They’re the newest hot item on eBay.

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I think you mean eBaby.

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