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JohnTheOther: the Aurora heroes aren’t heroes. KEYWORDS: calculus of death, vagina, drug addled slut

Children: Not worth saving, apparently.

JohnTheOther, blabby videoblogger and Number Two at A Voice for Men, has now weighed in with his own, slightly tardy, manifesto on the Aurora shooting and the evils of supposed male “disposability.” I didn’t read the whole thing – seriously, dude, OMIT NEEDLESS WORDS – but a few things stood out when I skimmed it. For example, this lovely passage, which seems to be a longer and fouler version of that ill-advised tweet from the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto that I mentioned in my last post.

Our mainstream, which is to say, our corporate media – that which bends and fawns for access to the corrupt elected officials and modern robber barons of corporate statehood – is telling you, young man, that in order to be worthwhile, a real man, you’d better be prepared to die without complaint for the child, or the little old lady, or the drug addled slut in the next seat.

But Mr. TheOther is having none of it:

The instinct – expressing itself variously as chivalry or as fatal self sacrifice — is just one more that no longer has any discernable benefit. It is an encumbrance to any real pursuit of a civilized society in which one class of humans is not legally and socially elevated over another.

Sorry, kids; sorry, old ladies; sorry “drug addled sluts” — you’re on your own. Apparently, in a truly civilized society, no one ever looks out for anyone else. Altruism is for barbarians and Bill Bennett!

Here’s JtO’s stirring conclusion:

Those three men are not heroes, they’re just dead. The calculus of death, where one life is traded in celebration for another by preference of a vagina, is pathological and regressive. It must be recognized as the sickness it is. Those who lionized these men, whose fatal and unexamined instinct led to self-destruction; those who held them up as a heroic example to follow, are cordially invited to go first — or to go fuck themselves.

Charming as always, Mr. TheOther.

In the discussion of Mr. TheOther’s post in the Men’s Rights Subreddit, AVFM’s Paul Elam expands on the whole they aren’t heroes” theme, arguing that we need to retroactively strip away the hero status of the three men who died protecting their girlfriends — because they died protecting women.

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Sharculese
9 years ago

owslave is against any interaction with a woman that doesnt involve clenched white-knuckled fists

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Milkboy, you’re the one who talked about how 8 year olds were turning you on. You don’t get to pretend we are lying when we call you a pedophile. XD

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Stop talking about prepubescent girls in a sexual manner and people will stop thinking you’re a pedophile. It’s really very simple.

Oh no, I think we’re well past that at this point. We would just stop bringing it up about him, presumably.

nwoslave
9 years ago

@blitzgal
“Which story, the rapist or the hate crime? That thread had more than one man come forward and admit to committing rape, by the way. As to the hate crime, I have no idea. I was waiting for more progress to come out on that story.”

Ya know what? I think I’ll go out there as well and toss in the many rapes I’ve committed as well. I wonder if they’ll believe it. This’ll be quite fun. Dontcha think?

Nikan
Nikan
9 years ago

@nwoslave:

Yes, I saw that as well. Kinda reminds me of the lesbian who feebly tried scratching herself with some slurs

Oh, is it already official?

Karalora
Karalora
9 years ago

I can’t decide if you’re in Bolgia 10, for just being a liar, or in Bolgia 9, for sowing discord. So I’d probably let you choose: Affliction with painful diseases in Bolgia 10, or hacked into bits by a demon with a sword for all eternity in Bolgia 9?

Let’s put him in Bolgia 9 3/4: Affliction with painful diseases and being hacked into bits by a demon with a sword for all eternity, plus the demon is reading the Epilogue from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows out loud, over and over, while it hacks.

I have no idea whether that makes sense or has any value as humor, but there it is.

Did anyone else notice that NWO has basically equated femininity and cowardice? Bear in mind that this is the guy who says people who try to take on the “wrong” attributes for their gender are doomed to failure and misery. So basically, he thinks all women are cowards by nature and can never be anything else.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
9 years ago

I mean, I’ve always maintained that NWO is so socially isolated that he has no idea what other adult, heterosexual men are even like and doesn’t understand how revealing his comments actually are.

It really doesn’t occur to him that a bunch of other guys on the beach don’t see anything sexual about an eight-year old in a one piece.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

But NWO is outraged by the idea that anyone, man or woman, engages in cunnilingus.

I guess, to be fair, if cocksucker is a gendered insult based on the idea that 1) the dominant person is the one whose cock is sucked, and the submissive person is the one who is sucking cock; or 2) GAY SEX BAD EW EW EW PERFORMATIVE MASCULINITY NOW, then if “pussylicker” was loaded with parallel baggage, it too would be a gendered insult.

But it isn’t.

So it doesn’t hurt.

And I don’t remember the Vagina Monologues that well. Guess they didn’t scar me for life, all those women up there talking about vags.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
9 years ago

Kinda reminds me of the lesbian who feebly tried scratching herself with some slurs claiming it was those bad people with morals who did it.

There’s no hole so deep he won’t keep digging.

Owly: upholder of morality (where morality = anti-gayness)

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

plus the demon is reading the Epilogue from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows out loud, over and over, while it hacks.

Nyohf Frirehf!

Nyohf Frirehf!

Nyohf Frirehf!

Karalora
Karalora
9 years ago

I’m sorry, Falconer, that reference completely passes me by.

WordSpinner
WordSpinner
9 years ago

Especially considering that one of the heros (who isn’t getting as much press as the unfortunately deceased men) was a 13 year-old girl who tried to save the life of a 6 year old who she would often babysit for. That’s bravery. Done by a teenage girl–which, as far as I can tell, Owly thinks is the lowest form of life.

(I think I actually heard about her from one of the posters here.)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
9 years ago

It’s not as though I don’t find Owly making a total shit of himself amusing, but he does realize how much he’s trivializing the whole concept of morality by reducing it to pro- or anti-teh gayz, right? Like, he just thinks taking a dump all over morality is just his job and he’s not actually that clueless?

Stop laughing, I really want to know.

TheNatFantastic
9 years ago

Karalora, copy it, go to Rot13.com and paste it, then hit cypher.

Karalora
Karalora
9 years ago

@TheNatFantastic

Thanks, although having done so I’m not sure why Falconer chose to encrypt it. Is it still considered a spoiler?

pecunium
9 years ago

What’s with the hate on for cunnilingus? I mean, “coochie-snorcher” is a childish way to describe it, but it’s harmless fun (between consenting adults).

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

Thanks, although having done so I’m not sure why Falconer chose to encrypt it. Is it still considered a spoiler?

Maybe not, but I’m still kind of sore that Varsehole blew open the entire end of Dark Knight Rises for me last night. So, you know, I’m practicing what I preach? Maybe?

Amnesia
Amnesia
9 years ago

@Karalora
About as much as the fact that Frcuvebgu xvyyrq Nrevf.

Anathema
Anathema
9 years ago

So, Owly, in your world

Rape = Moral
Pedophilia = Moral
Victim-blaming = Moral

But . . .

Sex between consenting adults of the same gender = The most wicked, debauched, sick immoral action in the history of EVAH!!!1!!

Owly, how on Earth do you define morality? You seem to be using a definition I am completely unfamiliar with.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

About as much as the fact that Frcuvebgu xvyyrq Nrevf.

Great. Just great. Might as well not finish VI now, or play VIII to XIII-2. RUINED FOREVER!

Thanks a lot.

/sarcasm

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
9 years ago

What’s with the hate on for cunnilingus?

You know NWO hates cunnilingus. He started posting here last year when David posted that quote from Ozy about men performing cunnilingus. And a month or so ago he was on here in yet another spittle-flecked, frothing rage about how Ozy was a liar because he read on her blog that she didn’t like cunnilingus and some other women said they didn’t either. And it meant that women liking cunnilingus was a lie -A LIE! I TELL YOU!

Never mind that Ozy didn’t say that all women hate cunnilingus or that in the thread he was referencing there were men who said they enjoyed it. He ignored that.

For some reason he really hates the idea of people engaging in cunnilingus. If he were anyone else it would be weird but it’s NWO so, you know, par for the course.

pecunium
9 years ago

you can also get “leetkey” as a firefox extenstion. It will do lots of conversions, on the fly,and it parses html, so formatting of comments isn’t borked.

pecunium
9 years ago

NWO doesn’t get it (qu’elle surprise [which is french, not spanish, so it uses a different alphabet; becuase Spanish and Russian are the same).

It’s not that the dude is whom we’re upset with. It’s the people who both believe him, and support him.

But you don’t really think it’s possible to rape someone. If she turned the dude on and says no she deserves it. If she says yes, for any reason, to anyone, she is slutty mcslutslut and deserves to be raped as punishment. If she’s pretty, and she goes outdoors she is going to arouse some man somewhere and then she better refuse to put out, so she can be raped; but wait, that’s not right, because she went out and some dude got horny; she was waving raw meat at a starving dog.

And you say we hate men.

You are a sick fuck.

pecunium
9 years ago

nobinayamu: NWO has been here longer than I have. It’s sort of sad, since all he gets is well deserved scorn (and not as much as he deserves).

He gets something from it. Either a sense of social interaction, or the idea that he’s taking the fight to the enemy, or a frisson of joy from the abuse.

But it’s something.

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