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Hey ladies! The Men’s Rights movement needs you. Like, really, really needs you.

The Men’s Rights subreddit is a gift that keeps on giving!

In response to a woman pledging her support to the Men’s Rights movement, someone calling himself Nephilim_Hunter offers his thanks:

Because men have been relegated to a what of a what now?

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Just wanted to make sure I understood that you really, actually did just say that.

Oh, by the way,I’m starting a new feature here at Man Boobz. It’s called: Random Pictures of Boards of Directors.

Here’s a picture of the board of directors of Wal-Mart:

Oh, and here’s the board of directors for GE:

And here’s the board of directors of Duke Energy:

Oh, and the board of directors at Dynasty Financial Partners:

And these fellas are the board of directors at The Rea Magnet Wire Company:

And, while we’re at it, here’s the board of directors of Man Boobz:

 

316 replies on “Hey ladies! The Men’s Rights movement needs you. Like, really, really needs you.”

DKM: I was only trying to show what can happen when a feminist allows the rage and frustration of an already unbalanced and destructive man spirils out of control

Holy shit, I didn’t even see this the first time: the crappy syntax as you try to make ‘feminists’ the agents of the action (a feminist ALLOWS…..man): meaning, a feminist ALLOWS a man to kill her.

Uh huh

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

goofy girlfriends

Friends, Meller. Just friends. FRIENDS. You know, both male *and* female?

(I know DKM has said far, far more serious things, but his insistence that women 1.) can’t have male friends and 2.) they’re all as dysfunctional as the women on Sex and the City is a huge pet peeve for me.)

Ithiliana, I was only trying to show what can happen when a feminist allows the rage and frustration of an already unbalanced and destructive man spirils out of control.

WTF, Meller? I thought you liked men–why are you saying they can’t control themselves?

Fuck you for putting a man’s behavior back on the woman.

WTF, Meller? I thought you liked men–why are you saying they can’t control themselves?

Men are like grizzly bears! Hikers–I mean, women–should always be careful not to make loud noises around them, not look too threatening, and hold still even when they charge.

…NOT the ‘ ATM with legs” the way too many modern women, even if they marry and have child(ren) too often feel.

say the men who think it perfectly reasonable to view women as “incubators [of hopefully MALE children] with legs”

Again, while a man may stray, most traditional men will, if encouraged by a good woman, return to a monogamous home and appreciate what he has “keeping the homefires burning”.

at least until the next bodacious beauty catches his eye, then off he roams again, knowing that poor sucker….erm, I mean, wife….will still be stoking those homefires when he comes crawling back, time and again.

I tried watching one of Girl Writes What’s videos that someone posted on a Libertarian web site. I couldn’t get through it, my IQ was dropping. Anyway, this led to me cussing a guy out for wanting it to be socially unacceptable for mothers to have careers. Damn sexism!

Spirils?

Meller, if you’re going to try to deny the fact that you fully support domestic abuse and even murder as long as the aggressor is a man and you don’t approve of the woman, you really need to stop repeating your support for that very same thing over and over again, just with slightly different wording.

You also need to start using spellcheck.

If, and it is only IF, I “supported domestic abuse and even murder”, I certainly wouldn’t try so hard to point out how the women could probably avoid this merely by behaving in a normally feminine, compliant, and charming manner. Of course, ‘an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” goes totally outside any reasonable frame of reference which characterises women’s “thinking” doesn’t it? Remove the cause, and the likely consequences also disappear.

Besides, if youall were to follow this advice, and proactively eliminate, or at least radically reduce occasions for such disastrous and tragic events. you wouldn’t have anything to write about any more, and you each would have to find and marry a man, go home, have babies and start cooking, sewing, dusting,…etc.

Husband is happy, you are happy (I hope) and child(ren) are happy!

A few neurotic and bitter lezzies go home with their cats and their friends (Happy now, Molly Ren) and suik, grumble and whine about’and ‘male-chauvanist pig oppression” and your demented feminism returns tobeing, at most, the marginal curiosity that it was before the mid XX century.

As far as my referring to feminist friends as “goofy girlfriends”, Molly Ren, this is only becuase as a rule, they do anything and everything to try to disrupt a single woman’s natural tendencies to bond with a man. If possible, even more than “sex in the City”, these dysfunctional females will tear down a newly discovered mate at every opportunity, will, if possible, disrupt her budding relationship with him, and will tear him down at every opportunity. It is not unknown for one of them to even contrive a supposed “affair” and then go to girlfriend with tales of the alleged ‘infidelity’. Not all women, even all feminists, are like that of course, but far too many are, and those who aren’t, will eagerly cover for those who are!

It is hard enough nowadays for a good man to find a woman! He shouldn’t need to brave a gauntlet of his favorite woman’s goofy girlfriends talking him down and slandering him at every opportunity just to date and mate.

“Goofy girlfriends” is the mildest thing I can call these horrid women, MollyRen! There are other words for them,but I don’t want to use them in public!

Meller, if I were you I wouldn’t go around talking about your favourite abuse tactics.

What you’re essentially saying is that you feel the need to drive a wedge between your girlfriend and any friends she may have.

Though I imagine that you’ve run into this problem a few times…I’m sure that wiser friends of your dates may have picked up on what you really are than your date did. Sad that interest in someone can be so blinding, but that’s what friends and family do to protect you from heartbreak.

Pillowinhell, CassandraSays, Ithiliana, et al…

See above:

So Much Ignorance, So little Time!

Does anybody STILL think that more than the most rudimentary education for women is a good idea?

Meller: Ithiliana, I was only trying to show what can happen when a feminist allows the rage and frustration of an already unbalanced and destructive man spirils[sic] out of control. I didn’t say that killing was justified–AND NEVER WOULD—but that people could explode with tragic consequences for everybody concerned. Nothing in that post ever said that “disobedient or quarrelsome women should be murdered”, or anything like it!

Bullshit. You keep saying women need to think about the consequences of having opinions. It will, “Drive men to understandable outbursts”. You also say women do everything they can to stimulate such outbursts.

You excuse violence. When you aren’t saying you are looking forward to the time when men rise up and put women in their place.

Even if he should break his marraige vows, at least he KNOWS that it is wrong, and if she is a good wife, will try to do better by her and their marriage.

But if she has sex outside of a marriage, send her to the whorehouse, or leave her in the gutter to starve.

If, and it is only IF, I “supported domestic abuse and even murder”, I certainly wouldn’t try so hard to point out how the women could probably avoid this merely by behaving in a normally feminine, compliant, and charming manner

Oh yes you would. It’s perfect. “If you act the way I tell you to, then men won’t beat you. If you get beaten you must have driven him to it… just be a good girl and he’ll stop.”

You are arguing for the right of men to hit women. You just don’t have the courage to say it out loud. You are afraid some people might be dim enough not see you for the abuse condoning heel that you are.

Meller, from the looks of what you write, not only is my education more comprehensive than yours its also more up to date (by at least a century).

Unlike you, I don’t have to look to dolls for companionship because I have a partner, friends and family all of whom love and support me and get the same love and support from me. In the end, there’s far more happiness all around than what you propose is the right way for a woman to live.

A few neurotic and bitter lezzies go home with their cats and their friends (Happy now, Molly Ren) and suik, grumble and whine about’and ‘male-chauvanist pig oppression” and your demented feminism returns tobeing, at most, the marginal curiosity that it was before the mid XX century.

Much like Tom, Meller can’t conceive of any woman wanting to do anything but make babies post-feminism. Having wild sex with my girlfriend, painting a landscape, writing a novel, or taking a dance class is just *unfathomable* to him!

(Pssst, Meller! I do a lot of these things already! If feminism ended, I’d just do them even MORE!)

Does anybody STILL think that more than the most rudimentary education for women is a good idea?

All the feminists does, most of the women and most of the men and I’d go as far as probably most of the MRAs.
Now I’m haunted by the idea of Meller watching Sex and the city with his dolls, while explaining to them why these women are not ladies and deserve to be forced into prostitution.
DKM is really the perfect example of how one can be vile, or even evil, while not using a single naughty word.

If, and it is only IF, I “supported domestic abuse and even murder”, I certainly wouldn’t try so hard to point out how the women could probably avoid this merely by behaving in a normally feminine, compliant, and charming manner.

I know you’re a vampire, but surely even in the 1700s they had these concepts called “intimidation” and “extortion”?

“I don’t support murdering women at random… just the ones who step out of line.” Boy, you’re a real hero.

I know you’re a vampire, but surely even in the 1700s they had these concepts called “intimidation” and “extortion”?

Problem is, Holly, Meller’s persecution complex runs so deep that he’d never be able to see threatening to hurt a feminist as intimidation. He sees the FEMINIST as the person most likely to hurt someone!

If, and it is only IF, I “supported domestic abuse and even murder”, I certainly wouldn’t try so hard to point out how the women could probably avoid this merely by behaving in a normally feminine, compliant, and charming manner.

No, see, by trying to “point out” that women can avoid abuse and murder by being “charming and compliant” you ARE supporting domestic abuse and murder, pretty much by definition. Because your words, taken to their logical conclusion, hold only the victim responsible.

You’re not saying “Men need to stop beating women.” You’re saying “Women need to stop pissing men off.” What other possible interpretation of your position could there be, apart from “Women should just smile and take it they don’t want to get hit.”?

If, and only IF, you weren’t supporting abuse, you’d be saying “It’s wrong to hurt someone who loves and trusts you, no matter how much they make you angry.” WITH NO QUALIFIERS.

Now, I know you’re just going to repeat your standard denial, if you even bother to respond. But you, me, and everyone else here knows you’re lying, Meller.

@DKM: I have a doctorate.

I write grants and have been funded by OMG tax dollars.

I teach a LOT of women students (there tend to be more women in English than in, say, History, where my partner teaches).

LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF WOMEN, from their early 20s into the 60s (the oldest student I had was 82 when she took my creative writing class, and OMG she kicked ass, and always had–she worked on her memoir–I have a copy of it).

I teach women ALL THE TIME in college. And often, I teach with BOOKS written by WOMEN.

And you can’t do anything about it, neener, neener, neener!

And I bet I die a whole fucking lot happier than you do, vile nasty little passive-aggressive schmuck that you are.

I don’t think I’ve fully realized til now just *how* scary Meller finds feminism.

An unarmed, not-buff, untrained-in-self-defense feminst? OMG A THREAT!

Someone who’s making physical threats, verbal threats, or actually hitting people? NO THREAT AT ALL!

So basically any violence directed on women is a result of her not wearing frilly dresses, bows in her hair, and acting like a dog that’s been kicked?

Odd. Most of the men in my life have expressed appreciation for my wit, how I can verbally defend myself with the proper application of sarcasm, my general unwillingness to take any shit off of anyone, and self sufficiency. I’ve been know to pay for dinner too. Not exactly the pinnacle of submissiveness here. And isn’t it funny that none of them ever beat me for non-submissiveness? I wonder why that is. Oh right! It’s because I don’t date batshit insane misogynistic abusers!

David Meller is some kind of troll that would be a total waste of time except for the fact that you guys answer so well it’s edifying and worth the read. I’m inspired and edumacated by this board. Yes, beyond the rudimentary.

BTW, keeping segments of humans stuck in basic education also enables and perpetuates endless Schopenhauer type critiques and dismissive slander on said population. Nice to have your cake and eat it too, huh, abuser’s lobby? Yeah, I think so.

:”Women shouldn’t work!” so the ridicule can continue, “Women don’t work!”
This kind of shit never ends with that bunch.

DKM:

Does anybody STILL think that more than the most rudimentary education for women is a good idea?

I love the way this is phrased, as though he’d honestly be surprised to discover someone who didn’t think that.

Personally, I’m dead keen on women educating themselves. My wife’s education has made her the primary earner in our household – why on earth would I want to give that up? And even if it wasn’t for that strong financial incentive, I’d prefer her to be highly educated so that we can talk about halfway intelligent things when we’re together.

Just out of interest, back in the days when you were married, what did you and your wife talk about?

I don’t know when, but I do know that it broke up because he cheated on her, and for some reason she didn’t just meekly accept it like a good little fluffy airhead.

Does anybody STILL think that more than the most rudimentary education for women is a good idea?

People who’ve had their lives saved by female doctors, yeah, probably.

…Also most people who don’t see the point of squandering the potential of half the human race?

The things I have to explain.

Meller, obviously you’re bothered by educated women and their gal pals. Rather have a dumb woman with no friends, huh?

DKM, I was in an abusive relationship (through nothing more than sheer luck, I managed to leave while it was still in the honeymoon period). One of the ways my abuse manifested was that I was afraid to question him or disagree with him because he might get angry. But the thing is, in a normal relationship questioning or disagreement is allowed, and anger is permitted. The dynamics you are describing are not “how women can avoid abuse”: they are emotional abuse. Period.

I’m “bothered” by OVER-educated women, and their goofy girlfriends, because too much of either friendship or education ruins women for wifehood and domesticity, especially when she uses them, or is used by them, at cross-purposes against being a good wife, mother, and homemaker.

If she could be educated to be a better “domestic goddess” and her friends could encourage her to seek and find her fulfillment in her life with her man, there are no quarrels with either her “gal-pals” or her education.

If her friends could teach her how to be even more lovable or domestic, that would even be better! Of course, I bet that Ruby Hypatia et al probably see much more destructive goals for both education and woman’s social life.

So, uneducated women with no gal pals make the best wives, have the strongest marriages? I’m not buying that. You just don’t want women educated because, well, knowlege is power. And you want men to have the majority of power.

DKM: Does anybody STILL think that more than the most rudimentary education for women is a good idea?

Here we see the failure of your movement, past, present, and future.

Lots of people still think this, or women wouldn’t be getting educations.

There are still people who think there ought to be slaves, or that, “The races ought to be kept separate” (right Meller? It will be, “natural”, white folks will want to be “unmixed” and black folks, [if they have any manners] will just stay away; lest any of those white folks get their fragile feelings hurt), and a host of other inane, asinine and damnfool ideas.

But they are in the minority, and so the rules which allowed for that have been changed. If there weren’t any people who thought women ought to be educated, you would have some of your paradise; women would be ill-educated, and in thrall to men; because they’d be unable to fend for themselves.

Which is what you really want. Women who are dependent on creeps, such as yourself, to avoid starving in the gutter. Women who can’t afford to leave if the man they are with should, “stray, even though he knows, “the home fires” are more warming”, because to leave is to be adrift. She isn’t going to be able to know all the other men aren’t your sort of asshat, so “better the Devil she knows”, and you can cheat on her to your dickish content.

What pisses you off is women don’t have to put up with you, and the way you behave.

Oh, Meller: Women with educations make fine wives (partners, SOs, whatever they want to be called).

What they don’t make is good slaves. They will leave if you cheat. They will be able to go places without their mate, even when married. It means their partners have to treat them with respect. It means their partners have to be… partners, not masters. A marriage of equals.

Woman, says the Talmud, was made from man’s rib. Not his head, that she should lord over him, nor from his foot that he should be above him, but his rib, that they should be beside each other.

Education makes that possible.

Pecunium, I don’t have to worry, because being a man, you are going to eat your words sooner or later–sooner instead of later, if the modern women you seem to like so much are true to form!

As for VOLUNTARY separation of the races, I offer any large American city, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles,Philadelphia, or any other after WWII, and especially since your much beloved ’60s. These cities, even in the 30s, during the Great Depression, were American and world showplaces, when they were largely under White ownership, management, and commerce. They were places where people from around the world came to try to live, even if it was “in the slums”–which in the late XIX and early XX century, were largely European, by the way, with Africans being a largely rural underclass safely kept in the American South. Today, cities are either burned out hulks, sad remnants of former days, like Detroit, New Orleans, or Chicago, or two “ghettos”, one small for the super-rich, and one (much larger) for a growing class of permanently unemployable, ineducable, drug and booze addled, and often maniacally violence-prone lumpen on other…

“Inane and asinine” ideas? When my kind of ideas prevailed, poverty was temporary, a large and growing middle class was THE PREVAILING NORM, a male breadwinner income was understood to be the financial support of a family, where the man provded financial support, and the woman provided domestic support. There were households where this program failed to operate, for some reason, but it was universally understood to be tragedy produced by EXCEPTIONAL circumstances, not the norm, and certainly not some sort of warped “ideal”, the way “single motherhood” seems to have been since the ’70s.

Some, maybe most, of my ideas are suggestive of restoring the sum and substance of our society as it was before WWI. Is it possible? Probably not. Should we still explore options in that direction? Yes,esepecially since the more advanced state of much ((civilian market-based) technology available today, or in the near future, would offer everyone a vastly better standard of living then that which prevailed a century ago (think air conditioning).

The wisdom of the Talmud that you cited is absolutely true–for the men and women of the time! No Rabbi or Talmudic scholar imagined that a nightmare world would ever exist like ours, where women were at war with men, where displacement of men by women would be considered “progress”, and where, without blinking an eye, women would eagerly imitate men, even in our less praiseworthy traits, anywhere and everywhere, in the name of “equality”. Yes, woman as companion, as a man’s beloved, and as his “nearest and dearest” is certainly and ideal to be endorsed. But it becomes impossible when woman is man’s competitor, man’s rival, and in some cases, his ENEMY!

Kind of “Clockwork Orange” meets “Brave New World”. No Thank you!!

Ever notice that highly educated men tend to go for highly educated women? Ever get the feeling that people in the MRM aren’t highly educated, and they’re pissed these intelligent women would never go for them? Meller, you must feel really small when you’re around women doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc.

Meller, our Western culture where women have the same opportunities as men may be your nightmare scenario, but it’s not for most people. Our standard of living is better than most people’s around the world, and throughout history. If you were more secure in your manhood, you wouldn’t be bothered by the thought of women being highly educated professionals.

Meller, you’ve been watching too much little house on the prarie again. Slums and ghettos and poverty have always been the rule of thumb. That golden age you talk about was a blip that didn’t happen for most people.

And so what if all those wonderful cities used to be so wonderful? The rich used them up and moved on. Poorer families and then Black people moved in because that’s what they could afford. Then the city politicians underfund services and after that assholes like you blame people forced to live in dumps!

Nice Meller…

Shorter Meller – as long as the husband is happy, who cares if the wife is miserable? If she’s not happy it’s proof that she’s been led astray.

(For “husband” in this instance read “creepy controlling oddball with a doll fetish.)

I don’t think Meller’s read “A Clockwork Orange” if “this equality business has just gone too darn far” is what he’s getting from it…

Also I’m curious where bi/multiracial people should live. Do they get bordertowns, or are we going by a “one drop” rule here, or oh god I feel terrible even joking about this shit.

Meller, do you really expect to convince any of us that racism is a GOOD thing?? ¬_¬

“Some, maybe most, of my ideas are suggestive of restoring the sum and substance of our society as it was before WWI.”

derp,

In the 19th century, income inequality rose, but during the interwar period and especially during World War II, there was a marked decrease in inequality, with narrowing overall income differences, as well as shrinking income gaps between males and females, among different races, among blue- and white- collar workers, and among workers with different levels of education (see, for example, Goldin and Katz 1999a).

Voluntary separation of the races?” Seriously? In LA, the city was not very segregated at all at the beginning of the 20th Century. This is why white folks instituted restrictive racial covenants prohibiting white real estate owners in certain neighborhoods from selling their property to African Americans, Jews, etc. There was nothing voluntary about it. Even though LA wasn’t part of the deep South, we had our share of cross burnings and intimidation both against white property owners who defied the covenants and against non-white people who bought the property and moved in. When white southerners started moving to Los Angeles during WWII, they tried very hard to bring Jim Crow with them, segregating parks, movie theaters, swimming pools, even pet cemeteries! African Americans (and others) spent decades fighting politically, filing lawsuits, organizing boycotts, etc. precisely to end this segregation. Meller is not just vile, he is wrong on the facts.

Pecunium, I don’t have to worry, because being a man, you are going to eat your words sooner or later–sooner instead of later, if the modern women you seem to like so much are true to form!

And I think Pecunium is shaking in their stylish, yet affordable boots.

You don’t know a lot about history, do you? If you did, you would know that the “male breadwinner” standard was just that – a standard. It was something that people were supposed to strive to, but a surprisingly small group was actually able to do it. Even in the lily middle-class suburbs, the middle-class lifestyle was usually too much for just one income. Even middle-class wives brought in income, if in unconventional ways. Some popular methods were selling tupperware, jewelry, or makeup to other members of the community.

Again, if you took history lessons from sources other than Leave it to Beaver than you would already know that.

Well, Meller, as you can see, the majority of the population does not wish to return society to its pre-WW2 form. Since America is a democracy, that means it isn’t going to happen. Too bad, so sad, etc. Feel free to seek moral support from your dollies.

Xeginy – Yep. As if “modern” women are the first ones to ever work. Let’s do a little genealogy here…

I’m an emergency medical technician.
My mother is a nurse.
My grandmother was an accountant.
My great-grandmother owned a corner grocery store.
My great-great-grandmother worked on a dairy farm.
My great-great-great-grandmother worked on a dairy farm.
At this point the records get a bit hazy but I suspect my great-great-great-great-grandmother worked on a dairy farm.

Maybe Meller isn’t a vampire, or he might remember that the Good Old Days, the ones where women never had to trouble themselves with work beyond washing dishes and feeding babies, never happened. In the 1800s my female ancestors were hauling hay and milking cows.

Then again, perhaps he’s just a very sheltered vampire.

What really gets me is Mellers lack of common sense. I mean really, entire cultures and races of people didn’t want to live in nice places like the white folk live in! The way he makes it sound, Black people deliberatly moved into slums and intentionally made it worse.

Melller, you have the internet, a gateway to just about any kind of knowledge you want. It contains vast amounts of history and sociology. For fucks sake USE it!!!!!!

Start with Black history, especially in terms of realestate and redlining. Then go look at what pioneer women did as work on a daily basis! Or you could read some of the great classics, especially those written by women which talk about womens lives and work. Then start looking up when things like the washing machine were invented and when they became common household items. And when you do that, just keep in mind that many households don’t have access to those time saving devices, many households are still washing laundry by hand. Christ! If it weren’t for fire codes many households would probably still be using wood stoves and well water!

Meller is not just vile, he is wrong on the facts.

Story of his life.

He is also a clown, and the disturbing non-funny type.

Cue in his theme music each time he makes an appearance. (Trigger warning, scary clown picture, but it perfectly captures Meller’s ugly soul.)

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