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Is MRA blogger Christian J. incoherent by accident — or on purpose?

Is Christian J., the blogger behind What Men Are Saying About Women and the inventor of the infamous MRA two-dot ellipses, the worst writer in the manosphere?

I submit to you this sentence from a recent post of his:

One cannot falter to flatter, condone and encourage women more than by recommending and suggesting that the recommended path they have to follow will eventually, somehow, within a particular length of time, will meet with their euphoric predictions.

It’s hard to even know where to start with this hot mess of a sentence. Strunk and White famously exhorted writers to “omit needless words.” Christian J’s writing seems to consist almost entirely of needless words, some merely redundant, others simply wrong: they don’t actually mean what he thinks they mean. Meanwhile, Christian J. manages to confuse even himself with his pointlessly convoluted sentence structure – hence that second “will” towards the end.

Does Christian J’s sentence make more sense in context? A tiny bit. Here’s the whole paragraph:

Feeding the endless lies to women is ofcourse a main passion for feminists, as they believe that they are the epicenter of all wisdom and sage advice. One cannot falter to flatter, condone and encourage women more than by recommending and suggesting that the recommended path they have to follow will eventually, somehow, within a particular length of time, will meet with their euphoric predictions. Meanwhile they have waited in vain for decades for it to eventuate but it never appears to arrive. Feminists and women generally, will ofcourse never admit that they are on the wrong road in trying to fulfill their “mommy track with the picket fence”, dream. They are of the opinion that regardless of what they do, how they behave or what they promote, everything will eventually come their way automatically..

As far as I can tell, the point of his post is merely this: feminists have been telling women they can “have it all” – a career and a family – but really most women want to have kids and work part-time at best. Also, dudes don’t like feminists:

What the feminasties do not tell, is that there is actually a preferential scale that men generally follow to find a partner of choice. One would hazard a guess that being attached to a feminist would be missing on that list altogether or be down amongst the crippled and lame as they suffer from the same..

That’s almost poetic at the end there, with the “lame” and the “same.”

This bit is simply baffling.

[F]eminists want women out in the workforce so they can continually keep changing the rules, knowing that they have a lot of women out there who would in most situations, condone their actions. They can also guarantee that some level of that income will come their way and also ensure that funding and privileges will keep flowing while they have politicians by the balls.

So feminists want women to work so that they can get money from the government?

In the end, Christian J. “argues,” more traditional-minded women suffer:

Meanwhile, and as we have seen time and time again, it’s those women who want to make a different life for themselves who are still marginalised and berated. They have to be seen to be doing the feminist’s bidding, even if it is at their own expense and that is what this is all about. As we have witnessed right from the beginning, the feminists have a standard FU response aimed at anyone who dares to think or act differently to their demands and it’s this girlthink that is basically causing all the problems. So the ball is in the girls court but they fail to pick it up and run with it, meanwhile feminists are screwing their lives even further into the ground..

What on earth does that last sentence even mean? Christian J., mixing metaphors with impunity, has substituted clichés for thought.

Does it really matter that Christian J. can’t write his way out of a paper bag? Well, yeah, it sort of does. The incoherence of his prose reflects the incoherence of his ideas. Christian rails against the allegedly evil influences of feminists, but he never makes clear what exactly they are doing that he finds so objectionable. Nor does he ever explain exactly how feminists are harming “those women who want to make a different life for themselves” by, apparently, being stay-at-home moms. And of course he provides no real evidence to back up any of his points.

In short, Christian J. merely repeats a number of MRA talking points, stitching them together with overblown, incoherent prose heavy on clichés. A lot of MRA writing is like this: long on rhetoric, short on specifics, covering up its lack of substance with with obfuscatory rhetoric. Is this a deliberate strategy to conceal the MRM’s lack of real grievances? In most cases, I don’t think so. MRAs, for the most part, don’t know that they’re saying nothing. They think they are making arguments, when in reality they are having tantrums.

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thevenerablecorvex
10 years ago

I’ve noticed that this sort of writing is usually produced by idiots who think that they can make themselves appear smarter by using big words and sophisticated constructs. It never works, of course, because they don’t understand *how* to use them.

Polliwog
Polliwog
10 years ago

One would hazard a guess that being attached to a feminist would be missing on that list altogether or be down amongst the crippled and lame as they suffer from the same..

To the extent I can decipher this at all, I think it means that as a feminist who currently needs a cane to get around, I am EXTRA SUPER TERRIBLE.

I haven’t exactly been happy about the addition of the cane to my life in the last few months, but if it makes me EXTRA SUPER TERRIBLE to MRAs, then at least there’s a bit of a silver lining. 🙂

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

My eyes will continue to glaze over every time I attempt to read his tl;rd until such time as someone invents a red pen that can be used for editing purposes over the Internet.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I would love that red pen!

Christian J’s whatever that is reads like a manual that was translated from Chinese by someone who only spoke Spanish.

cloudiah
10 years ago

I have a friend who used to write like this. I rationed his commas, and made him delete 30% of the words in each sentence. He’s much better now.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
10 years ago

Hey, the MRM does too have real grievances! They’ve petitioned the UN to hold a Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination Against Men, and this was one of their most important demands:

“States Parties shall take all appropriate measures to eliminate discrimination against men with regards to the prices charged by business establishments in that men must always, including even in cases of special promotions, be charged the same prices as women in all sectors of the economy, including but not limited to, insurance, food and drink, admission fees, and airplane tickets.”

(The piece this comes from was originally discovered by Holly at Elam’s site.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Ladies Night at the local dive is the greatest, most tragic case of discrimination in human history. Fight the power!

Carrie
10 years ago

God, I’ve read Brooke McEldowney comics (http://www.gocomics.com/pibgorn/2012/02/13) that are easier to decipher than this mess.

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

@Hippodameia – if they include things like haircuts and shirts in that list, I’ll support it, too. 😉

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
10 years ago

That’s different, Magpie! Men are totally entitled to discounts on haircuts and drycleaning!

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

And underwear! Can’t forget that.

clairedammit
clairedammit
10 years ago

So the ball is in the girls court but they fail to pick it up and run with it

God, he can’t even get his sports metaphors right. It’s basketball that’s played on a court, and you don’t run with the ball in basketball. Or tennis, for that matter. Running with the ball in tennis would be really stupid.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Also tailoring. Ever bought a man’s suit? Better quality for less money than the equivalent for women.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

“God, he can’t even get his sports metaphors right. It’s basketball that’s played on a court, and you don’t run with the ball in basketball. Or tennis, for that matter. Running with the ball in tennis would be really stupid.”

No, see, what he’s saying is that cheating is good and smart and if women choose not to cheat then they’re just stupid. If it was him he would totally pick that ball up and run!

Anathema
10 years ago

Good Lord, can Christian J. be redundant:

“recommending and suggesting that the recommended path”

“will eventually, somehow, within a particular length of time,”

“regardless of what they do, how they behave or what they promote”

Seriously, is he familiar with the concept of revising at all?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Editing is misandry.

Sharculese
10 years ago

‘falter to flatter’ would actually be a good name for a punk album. sadly, christian j probably has as little musical talent as linguistic talent.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Since when do women get a discount on airplane tickets? Last time I flew, there was no Vagina Class.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

I feel like Virgin Airlines at least should offer a Vagina Class. Get on that, Branson.

Molly Ren
10 years ago

be charged the same prices as women in all sectors of the economy, including but not limited to, insurance, food and drink, admission fees, and airplane tickets

What really interests me in this list is the food and drink. Where’s the secret vagina aisle in the super market? Do they have them at Giant Eagle?

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

Holy shit, I can get food cheaper? I’m officially going to have to become food shopper at the house. Here I thought I paid the same amount XD

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
10 years ago

Men paying less for haircuts is obvious MISANDRY, I will petition the UN to have the price increased fivefold immediately.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

When you find the vagina aisle at the grocery store, let me know! All this time I’ve just been using coupons and looking at sale fliers.

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Maybe it’s because ‘girl food’ is fresh fruit and veg, and ‘man food’ is meat and deep-fried shit?

clairedammit
clairedammit
10 years ago

Food is cheaper for us because we eat less so that we can stay skinny and trap men with our luscious skinniness. Win-win.

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