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Ladies totally don’t appreciate guys who go out with them when they’re, you know, all old and stuff

Ava Gardner, fortysomething hag, and some beta dude doing her a giant favor by even being seen with her in public.

My eyes are all dialated from an eye exam, but even through a blurry haze I can tell this guy is kind of a toolbag. Here’s The Rational Male on why the ladies totally don’t appreciate all that dudes do for them, like for example, not having sex with other ladies when they totally probably could have.

I think what most men uniquely deceive themselves of is that they will ultimately be appreciated by women for their sacrifices. … You can’t be because women fundamentally lack the ability to fully realize, much less appreciate the sacrifices a man makes to facilitate her reality. … Men making the personal sacrifices necessary to honor, respect and love her are commonplace. You’re supposed to do those things. You sacrificed your ambitions and potential to provide her with a better life? You were supposed to. You resisted temptation and didn’t cheat on your wife with the hot secretary who was DTF and ready to go?

Ladies totally don’t appreciate that shit. Seriously, gals, it takes a lot of willpower for us to keep from going around sticking our penises in other ladies. You should probably bake us all cakes, or something.

The worst offenders? Women 40 and over.

[A]ssume for a moment that a 40 y.o. Man with the options to pursue younger women “does the right thing” and seeks out a relationship with a woman his own age. Would he be appreciated for essentially giving an aged woman a new lease on life? Or would he be viewed as doing what is to be expected of him?

Seriously, women over 40 are practically senior citizens. Even talking to them is a gigantic sacrifice for a guy who imagines he might possibly be able to cajole a drunk 27 year old into bed for a night of deeply unsatisfying sex with him.

It’s best to remind the fortysomething hags what a giant favor you’re doing them while you are actually, you know, doing them. In the “having sex with them” sense, if you catch my drift.

“Aw yeah, baby, you saw that waitress totally smiling at me earlier. I think she’d probably do me. You’re lucky I even gave your old ass a second look!”

Repeat this until she hates herself. That sort of thing is what makes for spectacular sex.

It’s no wonder he calls himself The Rational Man.

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Pecunium
10 years ago

Yeah, that’s what I thought. No one has heard of PUA, and no one cares, and Push Until She Says NO, is completely not done, but that dude that did it, he was totally lying about being a PUA and…

Yep

Gillian
Gillian
10 years ago

Yeah, that’s what I thought. No one has heard of PUA, and no one cares, and Push Until She Says NO, is completely not done, but that dude that did it, he was totally lying about being a PUA and…

Actually, it was a lot more obvious in this particular case. The supposed rapist (and I’m calling him “supposed” because the Israeli PUA forums are full of lying liars who lie and tell impossible stories about how they fucked 6-foot Swedish models after meeting them in the supermarket, so who knows if this is true) wrote in a PUA forum, was a familiar PUA activist, and lots of other PUAs chimed in to applaud. Israel is a tiny little country, and the PUA community is a tiny little community in said tiny little country. If you do any research, you can easily find out who’s a PUA and who isn’t.

So there weren’t even any attempts at “No True PUA” diversions. It was all straight-up “she wanted it,” “if she didn’t want it she should have said something/kicked him in the nuts,” “you feminists are all ugly and hairy,” and the ever-popular “but this is how men get laaaaaid, and if they didn’t do this sort of thing they’d never get laaaaaaid.”

Pecunium
10 years ago

Gillian: The, “No True PUA” was Eurosabra speaking here, and telling us that the sort of thing you are talking about isn’t done by, “real PUAs”.

Emma the Emo
10 years ago

Heh, I remember commenting on that one.
For a man with too many options, monogamy with a woman his age is indeed a sacrifice (unless he prefers women his age anyway). Of course, if he promised to remain faithful, then he is supposed to. Otherwise, he is not supposed to anything just by default. Monogamy for a man with much less options is not a great sacrifice (might actually be a great deal instead), which is why Rational Male sounds so entitled to you there. He’s technically right, but it only works for guys with a lot of options.
The thing about sacrifice though is that it has to be mutual (give and take), then the likelihood of running into the problem of unappreciation would be reduced.

Dracula
Dracula
10 years ago

Hey, here’s a thought: Monogamy is a sacrifice to those who aren’t inclined to be monogamous, and it isn’t for those who are. It has fuck all to do with “options”, and fuck all to do with gender.

ozymandias42
ozymandias42
10 years ago

Right. For instance, monogamy was a sacrifice to my girlfriend, until she got her act together and stopped cheating on people and became properly poly. Monogamy is not a sacrifice to my friend with benefits, who is monogamous even in casual-sex situations with people who are fucking other people.

GUYS PEOPLE ARE COMPLICATED

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
6 years ago

Love the photo and caption! It’s inspired me to write an open letter to these idiots.

Dear MRA/PUA shitbags,

If dating older women was good enough for Sinatra, it’s damn sure good enough for you.

Sincerely,
The WHTM Commentariat

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