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Is Reddit a magnet for pedophiles?

A much preferable kind of creep.

So the question I have it this: Does Reddit have some sort of powerful magnetic attraction to the pedophiles and pedophile defenders of the world, or is pedophilia and/or pedophile defense simply endemic amongst the young male tech geek demographic that’s so heavily overrepresented on Reddit?

This is a question that naturally sprung to my mind after reading a couple of recent posts in ShitRedditSays, documenting Reddit’s strange sympathy with the child porn enthusiasts of the world. A woman stands up on Reddit and declares herself a feminist? She’s a “bad person,” a “female supremacist,” an “utter piece of shit.”  A man is jailed for possession of child porn? He’s being unjustly persecuted for a “victimless crime.”

Fxexular on ShitRedditSays has assembled a roundup of some the most disturbing comments in a thread devoted to the aforementioned man jailed for possession of CP. Amongst his finds:

Heavily upvoted comments comparing viewing of child porn to smoking weed and playing Grand Theft Auto.

A comment with 15 upvotes suggesting that the perp should only get “a stiff fine and a few weeks of community service … for a crime the judge himself probably committed half a dozen times on any given weekend.”

A comment with nearly two dozen upvotes lamenting that the child porn possessor is going to have his “life ruined over socially non-normative pictures. … this is a predictable outcome of a corrupt government which is obsessed with its own power.”

But these are just the tip of the pedo-defense iceberg. Take a look at the thread itself, where you will also find heavily upvoted comments from Redditors comparing the “persecution” of pedophiles to past persecution of gays and witches; an unintentionally ironic comment lamenting the cruel treatment of a perp who is “only 26” years old; and a comment making perhaps the strangest argument I think I may have ever seen anywhere about anything:

My core problem here, as a computer scientist, is that any photo he had is really a bunch of zeros and ones… which for anyone who is at all familiar with binary, is a number. Basically, by outlawing the storage of some form of data, we have said that it is illegal be in possession of certain numbers. Yes, these might be huge numbers that you don’t encounter in your daily life, but they are still simply numbers.

In a different thread on the same case, another Redditor gets 75 upvotes for comparing child-porn-possessing pedophiles with African-Americans in the era of the Civil Rights movement. Here’s the comment itself; here’s the ShitRedditSays thread discussing it. And here, for good measure, is the same commenter offering a Redditor who’s confessed to molesting his sister advice on how best to avoid prosecution.

Meanwhile, in an unrelated thread in Reddit’s Videos subreddit, pedophile (sorry, ephebophile) Redditors mount an all-out attack on a girl who had the temerity to complain about skeevy Redditors masturbating to pictures of herself she put in a private album on the internet when she was 14.

In ShitRedditSays, jamie11 collects together some of the creepiest comments, including these:

“Fuck yea she is developed AND judging by her smug smile, she is loving every second of this. Sure she says “OMG, so creepy herp derp” but in reality it is kind of a big EGO boost. EDIT: in b4 misogyny accusations!” [+7]

“She is an attention whore. She is really dumb. She will probably ultimately profit from this in the model/porn/coors girl industry.”[+10]

“Shes much hotter when shes quiet.” [+32]

The numbers in brackets indicate the numbers of upvotes.

Again, tip of the iceberg.

EDITED TO ADD: I hadn’t noticed before, but r/mensrights has  its own discussion of the child porn case. It’s pretty much what you’d expect: Possessing child porn is just a “thought crime” that doesn’t hurt anyone.

The creepiest fellow of the lot is probably logrusmage, who offers this defense of the child porn possessors of the world:

consider that a majority of “kiddy porn” are pictures of sexually mature females taken by said females for boyfriends that got leaked on the internet or via text, where the female happens to be under the age of consent.

When someone points out that, um, the fact that these pictures are “leaked” means that the subjects of said pictures didn’t consent to them being put online (and, also, they are below the age of consent), logrusmage offers this rebuttal:

Consent is not needed for something that does not directly effect someone. Like looking at them. … Looking at a picture of someone does not require their consent.

Presumably he’d be fine if someone secretly filmed him picking his nose while taking a crap and put it up on r/creepydudespickingnosesonthecrapper.

 

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Spearhafoc
10 years ago

Girls have been prosecuted for distributing pictures of yourself. I’m against that though.

The reason I hold adult men to a higher standard than I hold children is because they’re Goddamn adults and not children, you sick fuck!!

Besides, this nonsense is hardly the issue. Most child-porn is taken by and released by adults. It frequently involves children being raped on camera. Are you really going to say it’s okay to look at pictures or video of children being raped?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

He’s going to say that’s not rape, because those 8 year old girls are vile little temptresses flaunting their animal sexuality.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

He’s going to say that’s not rape, because those 8 year old girls are vile little temptresses flaunting their animal sexuality

Even if he doesn’t say it, we already know it’s what he thinks. He’s posted pictures of pre-pubescent girls as an example of women flaunting their sexuality. They were on the beach, posing for a photograph in completely age-appropriate swimsuits.

NWO sexualized them. He thinks that little girls at the beach are attempting to attract him. There is nothing surprising, nothing in the least, about him defending viewing child pornography and pedophilia. For him to do anything less would be absurdly hypocritical. Which, admittedly, wouldn’t be a first for him.

NWO? Penn State/Sandusky scandal? Your thoughts? Tell us how it’s feminism’s fault. I notice the manosphere seems loathe to address it.

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

I notice the manosphere seems loathe to address it.

I haven’t read up on it too much because it’s extremely unpleasant, but I don’t recall there being any women or girls involved in a significant way in any level of the issue. I guess that makes it a little hard to somehow blame it on all women everywhere, but I’m sure they could come up with something if they set their “minds” to it.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

True, Spearhafoc, but if they were really the men’s lobby they claim, you’d think you’d hear a lot about it. Instead there’s a strange radio silence.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

Spear, one of my sisters is a fairly recent Penn State graduate although her area of study was about as far from the football program as you could get. She… she’s pretty upset. I did a lot of reading in the first few days of the scandal and even took a cursory glance of some of the sites in the boobz roll but, in the beginning at least, no one seemed to want to touch it. I haven’t checked back recently.

It is extremely unpleasant. To say the least.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

Instead there’s a strange radio silence.

Which only bolsters my theory that there is very little real or positive activism coming out of the MRM in it’s current iteration. If they were remotely serious about helping/protecting men and boys then they would not only be decrying this situation -loudly and with as much rage as they express over issues like men paying for drinks- they would be trying to get out ahead of the potential far reaching repercussions of a story like this.

Two organizations that I work with/for are already worried about the potential fall out because they focus primarily on disadvantaged and at-risk boys.

Bostonian
10 years ago

Well, the MRM is, and always has been, cool with abusing kids. Why would they come out against child rape?

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

NWOslave is going off in the other thread about the Vagina Monologues and Valery Sonalas or some such nonsense. I’m too tired to put up with this nonsense right now.

Can we please ask our Feminist Overlords to take NWOslave down? Surely the entire force of the One World Government can take care of one milking machine repairman. He bores and wearies me.

Good night, all. Sleep well and whatnot.

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

I used the word nonsense twice in a row. Yay me.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Well you had a good reason to!

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Nobinayamu
“Even if he doesn’t say it, we already know it’s what he thinks. He’s posted pictures of pre-pubescent girls as an example of women flaunting their sexuality. They were on the beach, posing for a photograph in completely age-appropriate swimsuits.”

This’ll be my last comment of the night, feminists hatred is vile and draining.

I type girls on the beach and that’s what you get, Try it. You, being a feminist, are a promoter of pedophelia. Which is why you find little girls wearing two postage stamps and a string as, “age appropriate.”
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“NWO sexualized them. He thinks that little girls at the beach are attempting to attract him. There is nothing surprising, nothing in the least, about him defending viewing child pornography and pedophilia. For him to do anything less would be absurdly hypocritical. Which, admittedly, wouldn’t be a first for him.”

I didn’t sexualize them. You did that by teaching them to dress in nothing, which you call empowerment. Funny how that word implies power. Would that be the power to attract sexual attention? I don’t defend child porn, you do. Look at the comments of your raunch brigade.

When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do? Teach 14 year old girls to stop fucking taking naked pictures of themselves. Idiot.
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“NWO? Penn State/Sandusky scandal? Your thoughts? Tell us how it’s feminism’s fault. I notice the manosphere seems loathe to address it.”

A vile swine who will no doubt reap what he’s sown when he thrown in with the sodomites which you support, (LGBT). As opposed to the woman who pretty much did the same thing for which I gave you a link. She’s free, due to the brand spanking new, “womans low self esteem” defense.

Myoo
Myoo
10 years ago

That’s funny, NWO, because I just searched for “girls on the beach” on google and I didn’t get any images of little girls wearing “two postage stamps and a string”, even with safesearch off. Either postage stamps are huge where you live, or you’re full of shit, like always.

Philippa
Philippa
10 years ago

NWO:

Where are you getting this bullshit that feminists generally in any way support paedophilia? I’m not understanding this and you give no links or cites of any kind that suggest that they do. Just a whole bunch of misogyny and supposition on your part. Go on, show me a link to a feminist publication advocating or supporting paedophilia. Just because women do sometimes commit this type of crime does not mean that they have the support of all feminists everywhere just because they happen to be women.

Many of us do support LGBT rights but that in no way supports paedophilia. We’re very big on consenting adults being free to do as they choose in their sexual relationships with other conseting adults. Obviously, children, being under age can’t consent and therefore having sex with one is statutory rape. That’s the legal position and I think the vast majority of feminists would support it as the best we can do under the current system.

However, I’ve seen you argue for lowering the age of consent because you want sexual access to young girls so, really your hypocrisy on this issue is quite startling.

Myoo
Myoo
10 years ago

Oh, and that story you posted, about the female pedophile? That is a horrible thing and she should have been sent to jail. That she wasn’t is a disgrace.

But I notice you didn’t say that the boys in that story were “attracting sexual attention”, which is a good thing, because even if they were doing that, for example, by bragging about how they totally had so much sex already, they don’t deserve to be abused. The fault of the abuse rests squarely on the shoulders of the abuser. That you don’t hold the same opinion towards little girls speaks volumes.

darksidecat
10 years ago

A 14 year old girl shouldn’t know better than to post naked pictures of herself but a man over 18 should know better than to look? Is this what you’re saying?

Hells yes that is what we are saying. Adults should behave like fucking adults, children are children. Not too hard of a concept.

Men who molest boys are not generally gay or bi, this myth has been debunked over and over again. Here’s the APA’s statement, from their basic “facts about child sexual abuse” page:

In most cases, the perpetrator is male regardless of whether the victim is a boy or girl. Heterosexual and gay men are equally likely to sexually abuse children. A perception that most perpetrators are gay men is a myth and harmful stereotype.

http://www.apa.org/pi/families/resources/child-sexual-abuse.aspx
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Loki Day
Loki Day
10 years ago

I didn’t sexualize them. You did that by teaching them to dress in nothing, which you call empowerment.

Stop projecting, dude. Feminists haven’t made you think sexual thoughts about children, you’ve been doing that all by yourself. Take responsibility for your inappropriate fantasies.

Toysoldier
10 years ago

Wisteria: What happened happened and could not have happened any other way. While I certainly think that people who view those images should face punishment, they technically have not harmed me. At best they thought about it. The people who made those images did harm me. However, if I were to report them, they would spend less time in prison than someone caught with images of me. That is a problem, and goes to how people deal with child abuse. We are more concerned with the thought of the abuse than the actual act.

Nobinayamu: Did you check to see if any men’s rights activists wrote about Penn State? It took me 30 seconds to find articles about it on The Spearhead and The False Rape Society.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Yes, and bravo to the Spearhead, who DID manage to blame feminism via Title IX. Will wonders never cease?

cynickal
cynickal
10 years ago

Blockquote>When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do?

When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves drinking online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do?
When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves smoking online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do?
When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves driving online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do?
When a 14 year old girl see’s pictures of girls over 18 posting pictures of themselves bungee jumping online what the fuck do you think they’re going to do?

Where as all of there are situations were there are age appropriate actions being imitated by younger people (how do you think humans learn?), all of them would still be illegal for the 14 year old to do.

Yet, you’re (defending?) the pedophile who thinks it’s acceptable for adult (men) to pass around these illegal photographs.

Though, I don’t think you’ve ever been actually accused of being an adult…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

“That’s funny, NWO, because I just searched for “girls on the beach” on google and I didn’t get any images of little girls wearing “two postage stamps and a string”, even with safesearch off.”

There’s also the fact that, even if those 8 year old girls were wearing almost nothing at all, most people would not view that as sexual, or respond to it in a sexual way. Because most people are not pedophiles.

NWO, on the other hand,finds those images arousing. What does that tell us about him?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Also, you horrible old perv, there’s really no need for little girls to cover up their chests because hey, guess what? There are no breasts there, pre puberty. A little girl’s chest looks exactly like a little boy’s chest. Bikini tops on little girls ARE sexualisation, in a way, in that making little girls wear them essentially says “well, little Susie, some day men are going to be attracted to the breasts that you will eventually have, so we better cover up those hypothetically arousing body parts that you will some day have right now”. There’s no reason that little girls need those tops at all other than a. that people are already obsessed with gendering them and b. that parents are worried about people like you leering at their children.

NWO, you are the monster hiding in the bushes that all of our parents warned us about (not just girls – they warned the boys too). That must make you feel so proud.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

I didn’t sexualize them. You did that by teaching them to dress in nothing, which you call empowerment.

I don’t understand Mr Slave, is it the bathing suits that you have a problem with? What if the children were actually wearing nothing, as in, not wearing clothes? Would you be attracted to them? Because most people would not. Children are not “sexualized” just because they have bodies. That’s all you buddy.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

What a wonderful world NWOSlave must live in, where all child porn was created by children themselves, and not adult predators. There are no children molested, raped, and abused (and filmed) by their caregivers. No children kidnapped, raped and filmed by predators who stalked them, or who happened to come into contact with them. No children sold to brothels by poverty-stricken parents, to be sold to adult predators to rape (and film). It must be a nice place to live. I wonder why he’s so angry all the time, then.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

It took me 30 seconds to find articles about it on The Spearhead and The False Rape Society.

Yeah, I read the FRS post (and its comment thread) a couple days ago, when it was posted. The original post was all, “See? Here’s one of those rare cases when the rape accusation isn’t false (because no women were involved, I guess), so we should all take it very seriously!” The comments were more like, “No, bro, no rape accusations are not false. Just because there were eyewitness accounts of Sandusky anally raping 10-year-old boys in the showers, that’s just hearsay and thus shouldn’t be reported!”

Neither side even approaches an understanding that rape is a horrible crime perpetrated by predators, whether the predator targets boys, girls, women, or men. It’s just like, Well, maybe in this one case we should keep an open mind vs. Hell no we shouldn’t. FRS sucks.

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