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Is Reddit a magnet for pedophiles?

A much preferable kind of creep.

So the question I have it this: Does Reddit have some sort of powerful magnetic attraction to the pedophiles and pedophile defenders of the world, or is pedophilia and/or pedophile defense simply endemic amongst the young male tech geek demographic that’s so heavily overrepresented on Reddit?

This is a question that naturally sprung to my mind after reading a couple of recent posts in ShitRedditSays, documenting Reddit’s strange sympathy with the child porn enthusiasts of the world. A woman stands up on Reddit and declares herself a feminist? She’s a “bad person,” a “female supremacist,” an “utter piece of shit.”  A man is jailed for possession of child porn? He’s being unjustly persecuted for a “victimless crime.”

Fxexular on ShitRedditSays has assembled a roundup of some the most disturbing comments in a thread devoted to the aforementioned man jailed for possession of CP. Amongst his finds:

Heavily upvoted comments comparing viewing of child porn to smoking weed and playing Grand Theft Auto.

A comment with 15 upvotes suggesting that the perp should only get “a stiff fine and a few weeks of community service … for a crime the judge himself probably committed half a dozen times on any given weekend.”

A comment with nearly two dozen upvotes lamenting that the child porn possessor is going to have his “life ruined over socially non-normative pictures. … this is a predictable outcome of a corrupt government which is obsessed with its own power.”

But these are just the tip of the pedo-defense iceberg. Take a look at the thread itself, where you will also find heavily upvoted comments from Redditors comparing the “persecution” of pedophiles to past persecution of gays and witches; an unintentionally ironic comment lamenting the cruel treatment of a perp who is “only 26” years old; and a comment making perhaps the strangest argument I think I may have ever seen anywhere about anything:

My core problem here, as a computer scientist, is that any photo he had is really a bunch of zeros and ones… which for anyone who is at all familiar with binary, is a number. Basically, by outlawing the storage of some form of data, we have said that it is illegal be in possession of certain numbers. Yes, these might be huge numbers that you don’t encounter in your daily life, but they are still simply numbers.

In a different thread on the same case, another Redditor gets 75 upvotes for comparing child-porn-possessing pedophiles with African-Americans in the era of the Civil Rights movement. Here’s the comment itself; here’s the ShitRedditSays thread discussing it. And here, for good measure, is the same commenter offering a Redditor who’s confessed to molesting his sister advice on how best to avoid prosecution.

Meanwhile, in an unrelated thread in Reddit’s Videos subreddit, pedophile (sorry, ephebophile) Redditors mount an all-out attack on a girl who had the temerity to complain about skeevy Redditors masturbating to pictures of herself she put in a private album on the internet when she was 14.

In ShitRedditSays, jamie11 collects together some of the creepiest comments, including these:

“Fuck yea she is developed AND judging by her smug smile, she is loving every second of this. Sure she says “OMG, so creepy herp derp” but in reality it is kind of a big EGO boost. EDIT: in b4 misogyny accusations!” [+7]

“She is an attention whore. She is really dumb. She will probably ultimately profit from this in the model/porn/coors girl industry.”[+10]

“Shes much hotter when shes quiet.” [+32]

The numbers in brackets indicate the numbers of upvotes.

Again, tip of the iceberg.

EDITED TO ADD: I hadn’t noticed before, but r/mensrights has  its own discussion of the child porn case. It’s pretty much what you’d expect: Possessing child porn is just a “thought crime” that doesn’t hurt anyone.

The creepiest fellow of the lot is probably logrusmage, who offers this defense of the child porn possessors of the world:

consider that a majority of “kiddy porn” are pictures of sexually mature females taken by said females for boyfriends that got leaked on the internet or via text, where the female happens to be under the age of consent.

When someone points out that, um, the fact that these pictures are “leaked” means that the subjects of said pictures didn’t consent to them being put online (and, also, they are below the age of consent), logrusmage offers this rebuttal:

Consent is not needed for something that does not directly effect someone. Like looking at them. … Looking at a picture of someone does not require their consent.

Presumably he’d be fine if someone secretly filmed him picking his nose while taking a crap and put it up on r/creepydudespickingnosesonthecrapper.

 

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Bostonian
10 years ago

As a parent of two young girls, I would like to [redacted] those child rape defenders.

*redaction provided by me.

vacuumslayer
10 years ago

I really can’t handle this tonight. *sigh*

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Ewwww GROSS!! Sorry, that’s pretty much the most intelligible thing I can come up with right now.

Charles Miller
10 years ago

The “It’s all just a number” soundbyte is recycled from the interminable geek arguments about copyright, and is an example of what happens when you point nerds who spend too much time dealing with mathematical problems and not enough time dealing with human ones at real-life issues.

It’s also very well rebutted in this article: http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

I seriously think I might throw up. That’s… just so sick.

red_locker
10 years ago

Seriously, what the fuck?

What the fuck?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

The answer to your question is clearly “yes”, it’s just the why of it that’s up for debate.

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

Please exile yourselves from the rest of humanity, redditors who defend child porn.

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

Bring on the trolls’ usual derails.

Seriously. Derail away.

This is not a pleasant topic.

red_locker
10 years ago

“Bring on the trolls’ usual derails.

Seriously. Derail away.

This is not a pleasant topic.”

Seconding this for great justice.

Please? Somebody? I’ll ship you a cookie in the mail.

Bostonian
10 years ago

Who was it who was making the honey and peanut butter cupcakes?

Pecunium
10 years ago

The CP is one thing (and there is something to the issue of sentencing disparity), but the stuff about the 14, it tempts one to thoughts most unpleasant.

I’ll go play some Call of Duty and kill some Wehrmachten now.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

The comment about “for a crime the judge himself probably committed half a dozen times on any given weekend” is the one that really chills me to the bone.

That’s beyond defense, beyond even acceptance; he’s arguing that it’s normal to look at child porn, gosh don’t we all. …And I know deep down in a sick sad way that he’s far from alone in thinking that.

Pecunium
10 years ago

Holly: That’s a defense mechanism. All sorts of things that aren’t normative are reconciled by saying, “lots of people do it.”

That’s one way we normalise things.

Some things, however, ought not be normalised.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

The 14-year-old one… I could not read the thread, but in with the pedophilia justifications and the “ha ha, dumb girl made her pictures stealable, which is a much bigger offense than stealing them” stuff, there’s a shocking amount of hatred at her purely for being hot.

Considering that women also get hated on for not being hot…

Ugh. Just the whole thing. I can’t read that thread.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

There is no defense for child porn, not in this or any other reality. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I really want to smack the “it’s just numbers” guy.

Myoo
Myoo
10 years ago

I’m pretty sure these people wouldn’t be so defensive of CP if they found out that some dude had been masturbating to pictures of them when they were 14.

schism
schism
10 years ago

The responses to the pro-CP stuff are obvious, so I’ll just focus on this part:

is that any photo he had is really a bunch of zeros and ones… which…is a number

HOLY SHIT YOU’VE BLOWN MY FRIGGIN’ MIND SIR.

No, seriously, this argument has some real-world applications. If I rob a bank, I can just claim that the money I stole is really just a bunch of quarks, which are subject to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, therefore the act of observing the money I stole alters it, causing it to be entirely different money and absolving me of the crime which I no longer committed.

SCIENCE.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Ugh. I just had this conversation with a feminist guy, on Jezebel, but about lolicon manga rather than child porn featureing actual kids. I’m really not up for reading any more arguments about how it’s totally normal and not at all harmful to normalise that desire right now.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

@Cassandra: totally OT, but how’s your face? Hope the root canal was a success.

ohiken
ohiken
10 years ago

This is exactly the tripe that came from my DNA donor when he was sent to prison for child porn possession. His little public diatribe against ‘censorship’ actually made waves on the pedo forums. I’m just waiting for him to die so I can donate his money to an appropriate charity in his name, to spite him once and for all in death. To think I have those genes swimming in me *shudder*

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Lolicon manga is in the category of things that I think should be legal, but I’m not going to be friends with anyone who has any. Kind of like white supremacist literature, I guess.

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