Ugh. It’s the Jailbait subreddit again. If you’ve been following any of the discussions that have recently been swirling around Reddit’s popular subreddit dedicated to the posting of technically-not-child-porn pics of underage girls, you probably ran across the standard Jailbait apologia: The pics there aren’t nude pics, and besides, most of them were originally posted on the internet by the girls themselves. So it’s all good clean fun, I guess.
It’s going to be a little bit harder for the Jailbaiters to use this bullshit argument in the future. A day or so ago, you see, a Jailbaiter calling himself TheContortionist posted a pic of his (alleged) 14-year-old ex-girlfriend’s ass in a thong. Naturally, the regulars demanded more. The OP noted that the only other pics he had of her were nudes.
So literally dozens of the regulars – I counted around 70 in all — begged him to PM the nudes to them. And … apparently he did send some of them the pics, at least according to a r/jailbait moderator with the charming handle I_RAPE_PEOPLE.
I can only hope that some of the requesters were FBI agents.
Here’s a screenshot of the whole disgusting thread (SFW; in an earlier NSFW screenshot posted to Reddit virtually all of the comments you see downvoted here still had net upvotes).
TheContortionist’s post (and the Jailbaiters’ reaction to it) was first brought to the attention of non-pedo Redditors by Me_bender in ShitRedditSays, then brought to the attention of the rest of Reddit by SRS regular HPLovecraft.
Naturally, this being Reddit, the r/jailbait apologists are still insisting that, hey, even though something like 70 people in r/jailbait publicly requested PMs of child porn, this sort of thing is officially frowned upon by the subreddit’s mods, so, you know, not to worry. As CapNRoddy put it:
The existence of r/jailbait does not mean nudes of children. Those are against the rules. Those posters broke the rules.
And then of course there were various iterations of this non-argument, set forth here by im_only_a_dolphin:
You know what I do about /r/jailbait?
I don’t visit it. Bam. Problem solved.
If by “solved” you mean “ignored, because I don’t give a shit about crimes that harm people other than me,” then I guess, yeah, that is “problem solved.”
I’ve been taking these quotes from the sometimes surreal discussion of the issue on the WTF subreddit. That discussion also produced this rather surreal exchange with I_RAPE_PEOPLE, the r/jailbait moderator I mentioned earlier:
Meanwhile, in another discussion of the topic elsewhere on Reddit, voidsong managed to get more than a dozen net upvotes for a comment that attempted to place the blame for the pics in r/jailbait on “daddy’s little angels slutting themselves up and taking pictures in the mirror” (and, of course, their parents).
I can only hope that the authorities are investigating these creeps, and that the Reddit admins are cooperating fully with them.
Loki, I fixed your comment; I’m guessing that’s what you meant.
Yes! Thanks, David. I was so peeved after I hit post. Sorry about cluttering the comments with my irritation.
Ok nothing further like that from me. This stuff just makes me worry.
It actually looks worse than what I posted to have it redacted though, so that is mildly amusing to me.
And yeah, to be clear, I also think that posting naked pictures of young people as well as getting into “relationships” with them constitutes as ‘harm’. Basically, it’s only ok if it stays as thoughts, not ok if really any action is taken based on those thoughts.
FTP: You know, I”d be willing to bet that the guy who tried to kidnap me off the street when I was thirteen might have said the same thing: There’s nothing wrong with following a junior high school student as she walks home, stopping at every street she crosses to stare at her. There’s nothing wrong with offering her cigarettes, trying to get her into my car, trying to get her name. There’s nothing wrong with whipping out my willy to show her how awesomely manly I am! Hey, wait, why are there pissed off cops at my door?
I’m willing to bet they’d say the same thing about the grown men who followed me around muttering sexual comments at me when I was 9. I mean, if she has boobs she’s fair game, right?
(I hate these people so much.)
I’m guessing Delta isn’t a NYTimes reader:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/health/23bisexual.html?_r=1&src=tp&smid=fb-share
(whoever wrote that headline… I want to marry them. Yes, male or female – bi women were declared non-unicorns months earlier! http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/01/16/bisexual-women-have-firm-identity/1788.html )
People have yet to comment on the fact that the wimminz are more pedophile than men.
MRAL: That would be because I’ve yet to see credible evidence of your claim. Show me a good, peer reviewed study with good methodology.
MRAL: might our focus on male pedophiles who target young girls be due to the fact that the freaking OP is about exactly that?
Also: citation needed.
And today’s first failed flounce award goes to MRAL.
I’ve given up on scoring MRALs flounces. He’s like a bungee boss – in and out too fast to bother.
Just catching up here.
Maggie, you really are a piece of … work, aren’t you? I don’t read r/jailbait; I found out about this shit in ShitRedditSays. As I’m sure you know, but you couldn’t resist a bit of typically dishonest Maggie-style passive aggressive fuckery?
Seems like the only person here who fell for it was Hengist.
A few other things:
A comment with some links from rutee got held in moderation;here it is if you want to go back and see it.
Some comments from Delta, who does not seem to be a sockpuppet of anyone we know, got held too. It was more of the same sort of crap.
A couple of comments from MRAL got held too, going on about Twilight and female pedos.
“free the paedos” is a sockpuppet of Buttman.
“What about those who swing both ways? AC-DC?”
They haven’t been the same since Bon Scott died.
MRAL, I know you’re not big on evidence, but if you want to talk celebrities… do you not remember the huge number of dudes who waited on the Olsen Twin’s 18th birthday with bated breath? What about Britney Spears?
I don’t really care who’s more of a pretend-better-pedophile, but I don’t really care. It’s all shit.
I’m a driver, I’m a winner
THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE I CAN FEEL IT
The jailbait reddit was already in a gray area of legality, so it was probably just a matter of time for some of them to cross the line and actually do something illegal. Any of them that passed the pictures around can no longer hide behind the first amendment if they get into legal trouble. I consider Reddit itself to partially to blame for enabling such a sick group to form and never moderating it.
In theory I have no problem with people who are sexually attracted to children/teens and 1) know it’s not reciprocated and cannot be consensual and 2) never act on it in any way (including passing around pics, encouraging active pedophiles, etc.)
In the Feministe debate about this idea a few months ago the two main schools of thought seemed to be mine — that such a miserable critter is not immoral, exactly, so much as pitiable — and the school of thought that no such critter exists because people who are sexually attracted to children inevitably offend.* So I dunno; it’s not an easy topic to have debates about with the low amount of data and the high passions.
*Similarly, people are also theoretically free to fantasize about murdering everyone around them if they never actually do it; whether this obsession-without-action is humanly possible I don’t know.
Okay, there is exactly zero chance that that’s not in a porno somewhere, right?
“Oh noes, I need to give you CPR! …to your cock.” BOW CHICKA BOW BOW!
Bagelsan, gay ambulance porn exists and I have some.
Holly; Can I see?
And you would 😛
Do the words ‘we need to palpate the region’ appear anywhere in it, Holly?
Bionicmommy makes a good point. That subreddit is easy pickin’s for law enforcement. Which means previous commenters were probably right that this is more of a hurr-hurr-I’s-on-your-intertubes/violatin-ur-taboos paedoparty. Real or pretend perverts, they are some of the dumbest fucks on the internet. They probably won’t do so well in prison.
I’m on my phone (at OccupyBoston preparing for a threatened police action, actually) so I can’t post links, but it’s called “The Paramedics” and it’s not the greatest; there’s only one scene actually on an ambulance.