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Election Open Thread

I’m sorry I didn’t upload this before, if there are some amongst you who want to discuss the, er, situation. I have been obsessing about this election for months now and I think that now we’re here I find I’m too anxious to watch the returns coming in as a Trump victory would be the biggest disaster for this country since, I dunno, the civil war? I took a peek at Twitter about twenty minutes ago (I refuse to use its other name) and the people I follow are all sounding very gloomy and now I’m more tense and scared than I have ever been about this election. The Russian bomb threats aren’t helping the situation. I don’t know if I’ll even check the news again tonight (who am I kidding, I will) but if you guys feel like chatting here’s a place to do it.

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Snowberry
Snowberry
1 month ago

Once the votes have been confirmed by the Senate, it’s too late to change the outcome of the election. However, if a later investigation reveals that the outcome was fraudulent or at least potentially so, then the people involved can be up for Federal charges (I forget the exact crime) and if the president was one of them and not merely a beneficiary, that would be grounds for impeachment and removal. Not that removal is realistic with this congress…

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 month ago

Let’s be honest about this: with 6 SCOTUS justices explicitly supporting Rethuglicans, contrary to every principle (snort) they’ve ever claimed to have (like “originalism” and “rule of law,” double snort), MAGAts can literally do anything they want and will *never* be held to legal account for anything, up to and including murder and treason.

…so no, it’s too late for any solution that doesn’t involve bloodshed, and basically has been since October 2020. It’s just taken a while for people to notice (the few that have).

Last edited 1 month ago by Gaebolga
Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 month ago

@Gaebolga:
Lawyers, Guns, & Money had a post about the Supreme Court option:
Will John Roberts stand up to Donald Trump?The take there is basically that Roberts almost certainly will not stand up to Trump… not specifically because he’s in Trump’s pocket, but because if the Supreme Court rules against Trump on something important, and Trump just responds with ‘Make Me’ and goes on with doing the same thing, it will absolutely show that the Supreme Court is now completely irrelevant, and that is something that Roberts couldn’t stand.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
27 days ago

Where did the comments on page 8 go? It just has a header and a footer now with no comments!

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
27 days ago

And now they’re back!

Snowberry
Snowberry
27 days ago

I had a dream last night, which I am posting here in hopes someone finds it amusing. I was using an AI which helped people plan trips, giving reasonable options and recommended itineraries with travel (planes, trains, buses, rental vehicles) and places to stay (hotels, motels, B&Bs) and even helping with bookings once a plan is selected. [I doubt such a thing exists in real life… yet.] For some reason I was going to a farming convention in some small town in Idaho [don’t ask why, that doesn’t interest me in real life]. Anyway, before the AI could do its thing, I had to fill out pages of forms to give it the information it needed to work with. One of the early pages said this:

Select only one:
❍ I am a Woman
❍ I am a Man
❍ I am Transgender
❍ I am a Child
❍ I am a TERF
❍ No

A later page involved special accommodations, for things like medical conditions, disabilities, pets, young children, and the like, but it also included ❏ I am a young TERF who needs access to real-woman-only spaces, and ❏ I am afraid of clowns.

Once it came up with a reasonable-sounding itinerary I used Google Maps to check the location of the hotel before booking anything, but all I got was a large grassy area a ways outside of town, near a highway. Checking the timestamp it said “Images ©2007 Google Maps”.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
26 days ago

So, just saw a mention on Lawyers, Guns, & Money of another previous subject of this blog:
Donald Trump successfully pressures Romania into releasing human trafficking child rapist so he can return to the USYes, Andrew Tate is heading back to the U.S. (Or probably is already back by now.)

Joekster
Joekster
24 days ago

Is David Ok? I noticed he hasn’t posted anything since the election…

Full Metal Ox
24 days ago

@Joekster:

<I>Is David Ok? I noticed he hasn’t posted anything since the election…</I>

I’d been wondering that myself…

Full Metal Ox
24 days ago

Well, crap. Internet Archive is down again.

Joekster
Joekster
23 days ago

I see he’s got an X account- I don’t. Never did when it was Twitter, and don’t want to now.

Could someone who does have an X account check and see if he’s posting over there?

Last edited 23 days ago by Joekster
Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
23 days ago

Is David Ok?

I hope so.

He’s been very quiet on Twitter. Although he must still check the comments here to allow some out of moderation.

Fingers crossed he’s just chilling, or writing some journal articles or the like.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
23 days ago

Is David Ok? I noticed he hasn’t posted anything since the election…

He’s managing the moderation queue here, though on a somewhat irregular basis, but hasn’t posted in ages here or at his AI blog. Absent telepathy or a new post from him I don’t think there’s any way of knowing what’s going on in his head right now.

Perhaps he’s busy putting together a go-bag and arranging transportation to be able to get out in a hurry if it looks like they’re about to start rounding up outspoken dissidents to send to the camps, or something.

Well, crap. Internet Archive is down again.

That cannot be permitted.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
21 days ago

Trump Tariffs are online. Whelp time to be even broker.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
21 days ago

It’s Pancake Day here. So tradition dictates we have to spam this all over social media.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
18 days ago

Dems are pro crypto
https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrency/2025/senate-revokes-crypto-tax-reporting-rule-passed-under-biden/

Dems are anti black men speaking out against trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna195020

Lol this opposition is trash

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
17 days ago

What opposition? There hasn’t been a real opposition to corporate oligarchy in the US for a long time (Reagan/Clinton if not longer). The Dems, save the Sanders/AOC wing, have been as beholden to that oligarchy as the Repugs; just not also to the misogynists and white supremacists in the Repug base. The two party establishmens have been playing “good cop/bad cop” with the electorate.

There was resistance to Trump’s first term not because the Dems were better but because the oligarchs were better: large businesses are inherently small-c conservative and Trump represented a break with normal, while Dems represented continuation/restoration of business as usual. So, businesses largely sided with Dems, outside the usual suspects (fossil fuel, military-industrial). Dems were told by their donors to resist Trump’s agenda.

Then there was a pandemic and Dems across the country instituted lockdowns and other disruptions to business as usual. Going into the 2024 election, from the oligarch point of view Dems were no longer safe pairs of hands for maintaining business as usual, so this reason for favoring them over Repugs was gone. Both parties now represented disruption, but only one of them also represented giant tax cuts for the oligarchs and the possibility of privatizing medicare and social security. Bam, the bulk of the formerly Dem-leaning portion of the oligarchy changed loyalties. Hence the sanewashing and everything else in the runup to the election, and hence why Dems’ donors are now telling them to knuckle under instead of resist.

TL;DR: unless you Americans can somehow primary the everloving fuck out of corporate Dems and replace almost all of them with more AOCs, you’re fucked … and that’s assuming there’s ever a mostly-unrigged election again in the States.

Last edited 17 days ago by Surplus to Requirements
Queen of the Harpies
Queen of the Harpies
17 days ago

@Snowberry

FWIW, I was amused, especially by the “No” option. Although AI is trash outside of dreams.

In general: Dems suck (always been an Independent), it’s just that they’re less evil than the Rethugs. But every single one of them that’s bowing down to the Nazis can go fuck themselves. Remember when the Rethugs became the “Party of No” over every single little thing Obama ever did? Why can’t dems do something like that when it actually matters?

Today was/still is International Women’s Day. Bet the incels and MRAs are whining about it like they do every year. Oh, and regardless of what anyone else says, this is a day for ALL women, so TERFS and other ‘phobes can fuck off too. Sick of so many damn people who used to stand up for gay rights, or are queer themselves, throwing our trans siblings under the bus. Unfortunately, that list now includes Gavin Newsom. Getting really disgusted at the growing number of them.

Most social media sites are dumpster fires, but anyone still on “xhitter” needs to abandon that hellhole already. Try Mastodon or the blue butterfly clone (BlueSky) instead.

Elaine the witch
Elaine the witch
15 days ago

I have filed for separation.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
15 days ago

@Elaine

Are you doing okay?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
15 days ago

I’m so sorry.

I don’t really understand it though. You two seemed to go well together, a few years back. Did you just grow apart, or was there a side of him he hid from you for a while?

I can understand if you’d rather not talk about it so I’m not going to expect those questions necessarily to get answers, especially right away.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
15 days ago

@Elaine: I’m glad to hear that. Be careful, stay safe, and keep us updated. Wishing you strength.

TacticalProgressive
TacticalProgressive
14 days ago

@Elaine

I send my well wishes; be safe

Full Metal Ox
14 days ago

@Elaine the witch:

You do whatever you need to; in a situation where the captain is directing the rats to gnaw holes in the lifeboats, a partner who’s less than supportive is the very last thing you need.

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