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Open Thread on the UK elections and anything else you want to talk about

OPEN THREAD on the big day in the UK.

Comment away. No trolls or Boris supporters please.

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
2 years ago

Oh my god. My old friend John Devalle is back. How’s your anti-WHTM Facebook group going, Johnny?

For those who weren’t there for it, he was part of the troll clusterfuck here

https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/10/28/an-open-letter-to-cassie-jaye-director-of-the-red-pill/

And they all fixated on me for some reason.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
2 years ago

Granted, J Devalle up there may not be wrong, but not necessarily for the right reasons.

In one other blog I follow, the blogger (an ex-pat Brit living in Australia) was pointing out various reasons why ‘dithering’ voters would have gone for Boris, and a lot of it boils down to ‘this will at least get it over with’. People don’t know how much pain Brexit will cause (because a lot people treat politics as a spectator sport), but they do know how much pain the argument has caused, and the easiest way to end the argument was to just go through with it. Add in the sunk cost fallacy, the lack of unified opposition, and handing the Tories a Heckler’s Veto because they’ll probably still try to wreck everything if not given the chance to do Brexit, and you have the current situation.

https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2019/12/15/chaos-fascism-and-the-uk/

epitome of incomprehensibility

My brother was ranting about this yesterday (which I kind of blocked out, as I was studying for an exam, but at least that’s over). I was less vocal, but also unhappy.

@wwth – I also wanted to offer some kind of solidarity. (Below I wrote about what happened with my own mother, who is doing better now, but if this is stressful you don’t have to look at it.)

Four years ago, my mother had a depressive episode combined with chronic insomnia. It didn’t include paranoia or hallucinations, but obsessive thoughts and nightmares (when she did sleep), strong feelings of guilt, etc. When she went to emergency and got admitted to the local mental hospital, they had her under an order not to leave as they thought she was suicidal (she wasn’t, not actively, but she thought she was going to die. And probably sleeping that little was putting her health in danger.) She stayed there about a month before going home. She’s still taking one of the anti-depressant medications (at first she had 2 or 3).

That was a tough year as a whole, although I was working full time by then and my dad was there to take on more of the responsibilities.

One thing that helped me was a community service, Friends for Mental Health, which had free counseling for a year. (Frequency of appointments were, I think, according to needs – mine were twice a month.) Probably you’re concentrating more on her right now, but if there’s a local service like that it might help deal with the stress. They took me on even though I wasn’t a spouse or primary caregiver.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@J Devalle
It says “no trolls” very clearly. Are you lost?

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

I came across this tonight. It’s both sad and heartwarming; gave me both a sniffle and a warm glow inside. Hopefully it might do the same for others.

https://secretldn.com/mind-the-gap-embankment-station/

StaceySmartyPantsTwiceRemoved
StaceySmartyPantsTwiceRemoved
2 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

That story is so nice. You are right. Thank you so much for sharing it.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

Al, that story is beautiful and I’m NOT crying, damn you

J Devalle
J Devalle
2 years ago

Jenora Feuer, the blogger you quote is wrong to attribute brexit to the ‘racist English’. Wales voted leave, and nowhere in the UK has a racist party ever got much of following, and god knows they’ve tried. Racism, and Islamaphobia is a problem in Europe, where in several country’s extremists who are worse than Trump (and they really are) are in government. Europe is taking the same path it took in the 30’s. let’s hope it doesn’t end the same way.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
2 years ago

One of the teachers I work with was explaining English’s singular “they” to a class of Japanese 8th graders today, and I kind of stepped in and took it over because it looked like he was about to say “they” is for bi (?!?) and trans people. (He meant well, at least.) And so I explained to them how it’s a matter of gender identity.

Then I forgot to apologize for hijacking the lesson, but I’m also not really sorry?

It's just me
It's just me
2 years ago

Universal Kami,
Sorry for the delay. I’m not a big commenter. It is totally unclear how he ended up drowning. He may have committed suicide, it may have been an accident, perhaps the voices he was hearing lead to it, or maybe he was swept away while sleeping near the riverbank (there was massive rainfall and flooding at the time). The medical examiner saw no evidence of foul play. I’m not sure if it is a gift not to know what his final moments were like. Thanks for asking.

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