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By David Futrelle
Homophobes and transphobes do so love their slippery slope arguments.
If you give rights to gay people, or trans people, they claim, its only a few short steps to accepting pedophiles as a legitimate “lifestyle choice.” Then it’s on to cats marrying dogs and people marrying toasters.
Trouble is, more than a few of the “traditionalist” types who yell the loudest about the imaginary SJW push to normalize pedophilia also think that it’s perfectly normal — if not God’s will — for adult men to marry girls in their early teens.
In their minds, “real” pedophilia is a Satanic evil, but “hebephilia” and “ephebophilia” — sexual attraction to adolescents — is basically what God and nature intended.
Now some of these galaxy-brained “jailbait” obsessives have even begun to argue that the only way to fight “real” pedophilia is to set the age of consent at puberty and give men like them free reign.
In a thread on “Red Pill sexuality” on the Holla Forums, one jailbait theorist called Nathaniel Butler argues that age of consent laws should only protect pre-pubescent children.
“The true red pill is simple,” he writes.
Only heterosexuality should be legal and it should be full heterosexuality not the current restricted heterosexuality.
Nothing good could possibly follow an assertion like that.
That means it should be heterosexuality as God/nature intended so that the age of consent law should … simply be [that] pre-pubescent=illegal and people should not only be allowed to have sex from the start of puberty but they should also be allowed to get married then if they want too.
Later in the discussion, one Levi Torres (who sounds suspiciously like a socjkpuppet of Mr. Butler) went a bit further.
Agreeing with another commenter who suggested that “pedophilia [will be] the next big thing pushed by the left,” Torres suggested that age of consent laws set at age 16 or higher actually help pedophiles because they allegedly confuse the public into lumping the bad pephoophiles in with the (allegedly) good hebephiles and ephebophiles like him.
The left, Torres claims, has
already successfully blue-pilled … too many people into believing a false definition of paedophilia. The REAL SCIENTIFIC definition of paedophilia is sexual attraction to PRE-PUBESCENT CHILDREN, not sexual attraction to young adults under an unnatural government-created [Age of Consent].
Dude, as I’m sure you’re well aware, girls typically hit puberty between the ages of 11 and 14, if not younger. These are not “young adults.” They are still children.
The reason they’ve got people to believe the false definition is so that they can create so many repressed heterosexuals who believe that they’re actually paedophiles so will eventually support the legalisation of paedophilia.
I’ll let Leslie Jones respond for me here:
Torres continues:
The way to stop paedophilia being legalised is to change the [age of consent] to pre-pubescent=illegal and red-pill everyone on the FACT that only those attracted to pre-pubescent children are paedophiles and that all other heterosexuals are normal.
Being attracted to girls under 16 but not pre-pubescent is 100% normal and is the natural way of things and had been regarded as such since the first humans up until quite recently.
Dude, that’s enough computer for you today, you piece of shit.
If you need me I’ll be here quietly banging my head on my desk.
There’s always been a small number of commenters who lurk until there’s a disagreement about something, then they jump in to say how mean we are.
It’s kind of ironic, because these commenters don’t ever contribute anything positive or kind. They never delurk to join in on the silly fun conversations or to be supportive of someone going through an unpleasant life event. They’re the ones who only want to jump down our throats. It seems hypocritical to criticize regulars for being mean when they’re the ones only commenting to say negative and critical things.
Also, what a weird waste of time hobby to lurk around blog comments waiting for an opportunity to shit stir. I don’t even understand why someone would want to do that.
@contract jack
This is a literal Nazi term, invented by literal Hitler’s literal Nazis.
Also, great transphobic slurs and cockamamie conspiracy theories. You have exhausted your welcome. I move to have him banned.
@Mabret
Second the Motion.
I, for one, am shocked — shocked — that ContractJACK is repeating Nazi propaganda.
/s
If it’s really, really stupid, ol’ JACK is fully on board….
@Contract JACK
Citation needed.
Except he doesn’t cite anything because he has a god complex.
He’s not speaking “truths” he’s just unloading his feces in our space, and now it’s turned into explosive diarrhea.
And I’m pretty sure WHTM has a “no potty training, not welcome” policy.
Quick one for Jack here. Jack, my duck, you’re committing a very common fallacy, one that indicates that you haven’t really thought very hard about confronting your own beliefs. I know, it’s a shocking claim, but bear with me.
After this line, you proceed to talk about how priorities of “the left” have changed over decades. But – my duck, my egg, my swan; there are problems in this accusation of yours. Here are two.
First, the people who were fighting for birth control in the 60’s were often different people from the people who were fighting for the right to work and earn an income in the 70’s. People tend to pick up a fight and, when they’re done, they often go on to just do their thing.
Second, people change over time, and we should expect and celebrate that. The goal is freedom and peace, everything else is cobblestone.
Your issue here is that you don’t think of “the Left” as people. The Left is a big monolithic block in the perspective you’ve showed us here, with an organized agenda and coordinated actions. It’s not how people work, and it’s frankly conspiratorial – it’s not how you come to right conclusions on anything.
Oh, and the “raise the temperature slowly and the frog won’t notice” isn’t actually true, by the way. It’s a glib thought-stopping phrase that has a lot of social weight but none when it comes to actual frogs. So it’s apt that you’re using it. Another one you use is to suggest that “The Left” says there’s no such thing as biology when actual biologists heartily validate transgender people and say that biology practically guarantees their existence. Yet again, you claim the support of science, when science says the exact opposite. Frog-boiling indeed.
Looking forward to you ignoring this post and declaring victory without response!
– S
I was going to mock Contract JACK in a decade by decade fisking of his imagined “sexual revolution goalposts” but accusations that trans* advocates secret goal is the abuse of kids and the use of a slur doesn’t deserve mockery.
It just deserves banning.
David, I don’t know if I’ve ever suggested you ban someone before. I know I’m not the most regular commenter, dropping in for a couple months here, dropping out for a year, then dropping back in. But I really think this comment more than fits the pattern of comments you’ve found to be ban worthy in the past, and so now I’m suggesting you ban the fuck out of Contract JACK.
BTW: I should thank Mabret & Lainy who made the first and second calls.
It was honestly reassuring that others had previously called out that comment, though I still am a bit shocked that no one called out, “the secret plan of the tr***ies is to abuse your kids into becoming just like them” bit.
I can totally agree with that. The comments from JACK have gotten more and more disgusting the longer he’s been here. He’s gone from the usual “why are you stifling my free speech by allowing me to speak freely on your private blog” whining to Nazi dogwhistles and transphobia. I’m sure he’ll declare victory by getting banned, but he’s gonna do that in the end anyways, no matter what happens.
Yeah, like that.
Yeah, like that.
Ah, ableism, too. Just a shit cherry on top of that shit sundae jack is trying to serve us.
For those calling for Jack’s banning, the best way to contact David for this kind of thing is by emailing him. Which I have done. With any luck, this bigoted little twerp will be out of our hair in short order.
Oh lord, JACK just jizzed his pants at the thought of getting banned.
Obvious troll hasn’t been quite this obvious in many a year….
Make his week, David; he’s only going to get more desperate and irritating until you do.
Like that. Specifically, “I’m going to wail that everyone else is a screeching harpy when they don’t agree with me, instead of confronting their criticism honestly.”
So boring
EDIT: During his departure, maybe he can see by the double post above that the weird comment bugs affect everyone. I’m sure he’ll just say it’s a false flag for the conspiracy of avoiding the hard-hitting TRUTHS he’s serving up though.
ContractJack isn’t coping, but he doesn’t want to admit to having to sidle away in ignominy.
So now he’s actively trying to get banned, in order to pretend he’s just too truthy to handle (and tell himself comforting little tales about it).
Jack take your hand out of your pants. It’s disgusting for the rest of us. I get enough of that on the bus ride to work.
@Contract Jack
From the heart of this trans woman to the twin voids in your head and your heart, shut up and burn.
If he actually did have any of his posts get eaten. It seems remarkably convenient that the only posts of his that showed up over the last few days – not counting his ban-seeking posts from today – were the ones where he complained about his “irrefutable” arguments (God, I still love that claim! The best part is he seems to think someone will actually believe it…) getting censored.
Smells like bullshit….
Contract Jack wrote:
Well, there’s a compelling argument.
@Pocketnerd
“REEEEE” is an onomatopoeia that alt-righters use to refer to “autitistic screeching”, which is what they interpret progressives as doing when we object to them being shitty and prejudiced. It’s an ableist dismissal of anything they consider silly or otherwise not worth responding to.
Jack had some potential to be an entertaining troll. Then he decided to try really hard to offend and he got boring.
I’m going to have to swipe whatever direction means rejection on Tinder.
@WWTH
I believe the direction is front-to-back…
Has anybody contacted David yet? I hate swarming his inbox if everybody else has.
BYE AMBROSE CONTRACT JACK CRIANNON TROLL
@cornychips
Catalpa said they did upthread
Damn, I thought I’d already banned jack, but it was just him trying to comment from a different IP and getting his comments held in moderation. I’ve banned him now. And I’ll go back through his recent comments and delete anything that needs deleting.