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MGTOW: Men only talk to women because of the “meat dispensary between their legs.”

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Take a look at THAT short loin!

Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, a dude calling himself fleshnbones is holding forth on a subject near and dear to his MGTOW heart: how the only interesting thing about women lies between their legs.

But, like many MGTOWs, fleshnbones seems a little confused about what exactly (cis) women have in that area.

“Women are boring as f*ck and suck at holding conversations unless it’s about them and only them,” fleshnbones sniffs.

Clear your mind of all sexual urges and realize just how horrible they are at talking about interesting sh*t, I’d rather get into a howling contest with a group of Huskies.

Fleshnbones urges his fellow MGTOWs to put this to proposition to a test:

I challenge my fellow MGTOW to bust the biggest nut you can then just TRY to have a intellectual conversation with them.

It ain’t happening, the only reason we even put up with their boring asses is because they have that meat dispensary between their legs.

That what what between their legs?

Salt_Powered_Robot, while agreeing with this fundamental premise, used a somewhat more familiar meat-themed metaphor for the vagina:

[P]robably my main MGTOW realisation was that the only reason anyone ever has for holding a (non-professional) conversation with a woman is because he wants a go at her beef flaps.

He went on to offer this handy advice for men who nonetheless feel the need to talk to one of these meaty creatures:

When taking to a woman, just pretend she’s a mildly mentally deficient dude. Like, there’s no point being an asshole, but at the same time don’t discuss any complex subjects or use too many long words. Just put your brain on neutral and spew something superficial and unchallenging until you can make an excuse to leave.

And the kicker is: people will be amazed at how great you are at talking to women.

I … don’t actually think that’s true.

Our old friend Ovendice, meanwhile, somehow managed to avoid meat-related metaphors in these observations:

Women don’t DO anything, have no interests in anything productive or actually compelling, have no curiosity about the world and zero inventiveness, so they have nothing to talk about.

Their main hobbies are going to expensive restaurants, shopping and expensive vacations at the cheesiest, gaudiest resorts and on cruise lines possible and there’s not a whole lot to talk about any of those experiences except how she got drunk everyday and fucked 37 random men she just met.

Have any of these men actually ever spoken to an adult woman other than their mother?

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Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

meat dispensary

beef flaps

Unlike MGTOWs’ lofty peens, which are spun of finest gossamer moonlight and tinkling angel laughter.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
5 years ago

Axecalibur says:

Given that, why would talking about ideas be hard to do. Does he think orgasm makes us stupid?

Pretty sure he means that the all-consuming need to barge through the doors of the meat dispensary (ie. horniness) numbs men’s minds so much that they fail to realize women are incompetent conversationalists. But all will be revealed if you talk to a woman during your refractory period when your horniness has evaporated.

EJ (The Other One) - on Holiday

@Paradoxy:

I once encountered a statistic that said that the average person in the modern first-world meets 10,000 people over the course of their lifetime. If just under half of these are women (allowing for nonbinary people) then that’s 5,000 over the course of a lifetime, which is slightly over one millionth of all the women in the world.

This supports your position.

(Also, did you see how I just talked to a woman about a non-sexual, non-professional thing? It can be done. Or am I manning wrong?)

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

I read on the last page that MGTOWs and the like are all into “sex and games and not much else” and that honestly sums me up pretty well. But, even when it comes to games and sex and action movies there’s stuff to talk about. I mean, I could tell you all about why I love Fallout New Vegas or why Galuf’s death scene in Final Fantasy V is so meaningful and would be hard to replicate in any other medium. I could talk about action movies and superheroes, and why I loved Black Panther in Captain America Civil War. He’s everything dumb but awesome about superheroes all in one! He has his own themed jet plane in the fairly gritty MCU!

Here’s something manly, guns. I have a special interest in them, but it pains me to see them used for violence, or to hear about people who store them irresponsibly. I like the history of different ones, and how certain ones are rare and others used to be common but aren’t anymore, it’s honestly an interesting subject if you can avoid the gun nut (is that against comment policy?) mall ninja types that make everything into DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS trademark.

Finally, I like music. Maybe not the manliest hobby but it’s not usually thought of as femme. I like everything really, from songs like Poor Places by Wilco to Infected by The The, to rousing soundtracks like the battle themes from Shin Megami Tensei IV. Incidentally is there a forum for this site anywhere? I have a ton of songs that I would love to dump on you all, but I don’t want to wait for/spam an open thread.

brian
brian
5 years ago

on the topic of gross euphemisms for genitalia, a (woman) friend of mine found “ham wallet” amusing.
she’s… an interesting lady.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Claim men women go out of their way to avoid interacting with.

I love my friends who are dudes. They’re groovy and we have fun.

These dudes can’t even grasp the concept of people loving each other and enjoying each other’s company because they can’t feel anything genuine or form healthy bonds with other people. That is, unless everything they claim online is untrue. If you believe what they write, for them everything (even sex) is a competition. If a person cannot be used in some way, They have no desire to “befriend” them. These pathetic douches can’t conceive of a relationship based purely on respect and affection.

When they write crap like this, they just come across as jealous of women. They take time to shit on our friendships, hobbies, careers and families and try to mansplain them away because it chaps their asses to see us happy.

Good. I hope they choke on their jealousy.

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

@Brian: Relevant. Also.

Wetherby
Wetherby
5 years ago

When they write crap like this, they just come across as jealous of women. They take time to shit on our friendships, hobbies, careers and families and try to mansplain them away because it chaps their asses to see us happy.

I have a former colleague who left under a cloud (understatement) and now seems to spend his entire online life publicly bitching about the rest of us, including people who had no connection at all with the incident that triggered his departure. I can only assume that their crime is that they’re continuing to work for the same company, which is also annoying him by having the temerity to stay in business without his input.

And although there’s no misogyny involved here (his creepy stalking and PMing was the strictly equal-opportunity kind), it seems to me that a very similar mentality is at work – he has a very strong impression of how the world should be (ideally, geared towards personally serving him), and has genuine difficulty processing the notion that other people might have different priorities.

Hence this bizarre lashing-out – and sometimes it really is bizarre: he stalked one (male) former colleague for months on Twitter in order to mock and belittle his various lifestyle choices – but the responses he got from his followers was either “who cares?” or “don’t you think you’re being a teensy bit obsessive here?”. His targets are all ignoring him, of course, although one of them has been asked to screengrab his various rants in case he crosses the line into outright defamation.

I honestly don’t know why he bothers, though – he’s clearly madly jealous, but it seems to me that repeatedly advertising this jealousy can’t possibly be doing his own reputation any good. But you get the same thing with MGTOWs – they seem utterly oblivious about how they come across to normal people.

Pie
Pie
5 years ago

she got drunk everyday and fucked 37 random men she just met.

Have any of these men actually ever spoken to an adult woman other than their mother?

Did you just ‘yo momma’ ovendice?

msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

Halp….I need….I need someone to please get the bleach directly to my brain. And never quite as badly as after reading…meat dispensary.

This guy needs to GO – GET ON HIS WAY, and take his disgusting little friends with him.

Claire
Claire
5 years ago

Meat dispensary. Isn’t that just a convoluted way of saying butchery? We have a…butchery between our legs? Wait. What?

EverythingIsRidiculous
EverythingIsRidiculous
5 years ago

Hmmmm. So, I spent most of my worthless lady-day alone in the office, working at my responsible job in law enforcement, but the main conversation I had with a man was about the logistics of a leprechaun cage-fighting league.

Is that a topic worthy of the lofty MGTOW intellect?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@MissEB

being uncomfortable to use the proper words for the parts of the female genitalia

I’m hella uncomfortable with genital terminology too. Luckily, my puritanical hang up crosses over to both sexes. I’m trying to work thru it, what with being a grown ass person and all. Maybe the menzers could give it a try as well

@epitome

Men pay for those too, or else I step on them

Not an “or else” for a lot of people… ?

@Noyd

the all-consuming need to barge through the doors of the meat dispensary (ie. horniness) numbs men’s minds so much that they fail to realize women are incompetent conversationalists

Ah. So existing makes us stupid and orgasm makes us slightly less so for, on average, 30 min. In that time, we’re witness to the true, existential horror that the other 1/2 of the species is useless [slurs], and we wasted all our time hunting the mammoth for them, and… then the timer runs out. We forget it all and drift back into chasing dames and dolls. Seems a horrible way to go thru life, honestly…

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ everythingisridiculous

a leprechaun cage-fighting league.

I for one would like to hear more.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

Women have proper interests, it’s the patriarchalist media who presume that they don’t and that is media aimed at women but created by men, like the product ads I mentioned before, most reality shows, glossy magazines and top 40 radio ‘pop’ music.
This is throwaway garbage, just as titty mags like Nuts and Zoo, beer adverts, ‘football’ and T3 are for men. Men are not all the high minded intellectually and spiritually evolved creatures the MRAs like to think they are!

I used to work for Butlins, which has a very similar atmosphere to these cruises they talk about. They host stuff for adults only like 80’s weekend and Ibiza weekend. While we had our fair share of hen party groups, by far the worst behaved drunks were the men. I had a guy get his cock out one night when I was calling the bingo. What an attention whore. I guess he was jealous that I had the microphone and people were listening to me.

The Dread Vampy
The Dread Vampy
5 years ago

Have any of these men actually ever spoken to an adult woman other than their mother?

Hmmm. I sort of doubt they’ve even really spoken to their mothers. I’m sure they’ve talked at their mums, but I’m going to take a wild guess that they’re just as selective in listening to women they do know as women they don’t. (Also their mums aren’t PROPER women because they aren’t sexualised in their minds)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Virgin Mary

I used to work for Butlins

Putting the “red” in “redcoat”? 🙂

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@alan

🙂

Good one!

In other news, we had our CLP meeting last night to choose our nomination for the Labour leadership. When I was at the bar when I got there, the chairman came up and started chatting, first about my bag because I have a Shaun the Sheep rucksack with loads of badges on it, but then she said that someone had told her I was a member of the ‘Revolutionary Communist Party’! I told her of course that I wasn’t, because we aren’t supposed to be members of other parties, and my comrade was also there who is in the International Marxist Tendency as well. So that gave me a bit of a laugh.

I wasn’t going to speak at first, but the first four people to speak were very angry Owen Smith supporters, and my comrade said he was going to speak after he’d listened to what the other speakers were going to say. By the break, I decided to speak as well, so I wrote a piece about the effects of austerity to Island residents, which brings it home because we have been hit hard by the Tory council’s cutbacks with no youth clubs, public toilets and swimming pools and libraries open three days a week, they have put all this onto volunteers now. Plus the ‘academies’, elderly people and the disabled losing their support workers and community buses, the parks being poorly maintained etc. and everyone being sick of Eton educated millionaire game show host politicians, and Corbyn being real and someone we can relate to. So that went down pretty well. My comrade talked about Owen Smith being a Big Pharma stooge only interested in the billionaires etc, gave him a lambasting but got a good round of applause in the end.
Anyway, we got the result we were looking for, Corbyn got 54 votes, and only 5 for Smith, I was pretty amazed as the Smith fans were so vocal and angry at the start of the evening but ended up feasting on humble pie!!

So now the Isle of Wight Labour Party are officially backing Corbyn!

LostInLindsey
LostInLindsey
5 years ago

I too would like to hear more about this leprechaun cage fighting league; is there an associated elf league or is it strictly for leprechauns.

The MIGTOWS don’t deserve any serious response. Because ick, ‘beef flaps’? *shudders* what a vile description.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Virgin Mary

Shaun the Sheep rucksack

I miss the 80s when Communists were scary rather than adorable.

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Poor Owen Smith. When he announced he was running, one of his backers said on Newsnight that it was true he wasn’t exactly a household name in the country. Andrew Marr said he wasn’t even a household name in his own household.

I though they were going to change that rule about membership of other parties if/when Corbyn gets back in. The bloke from Militant seems to thinks so.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@alan

The IMT is the new version of Militant, but it isn’t a party, it’s a tendency. It was formed by Ted Grant. I think Momentum will end up being a party should the Labour Party split.

There are a good few ‘sectarians’ in the new Momentum group over here, probable they are members of other parties. The ‘Revolutionary Communist Party’ doesn’t even exist anymore tho, there is the British Communist Party (the ones with the hammer and dove logo, they publish the Morning Star, most are what you could rightly describe as progressive liberals) and the silly people at the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) who love Stalin and clashing with Fascists (we have nothing to do with them)

Here’s an adorable commie for you 🙂

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/0/0e/391007_safe_pinkie_pie_vladimir_lenin_commie_pie_commie.png/revision/latest?cb=20130814172213

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Aww, Pinko Pie. I love the little Lenin beard. 🙂

It’s funny all this fuss about prior party affiliation in the Labour Party at the moment. One of my mates was still a Labour Party member (and parliamentary candidate) when he was poached by the Tories to become an MP. That’s pragmatism (and loyalty) on a par with football clubs!

ETA: I suppose that illustrates how homogenous politics has become now.

EETTAA: I thought Militant became the Socialist Party?

LaterSpaceCowboy
LaterSpaceCowboy
5 years ago

*grabs popcorn, walks le hell away, watches reruns of Samantha Bee on YouTube*

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@alan

Poached by the Torys? He sounds like a traitor. Is he anybody I have heard of by any chance?

I had a weird a surreal conversation with my mum last night which started off being about the House Un-American Activities Comittee and the movie about Dalton Trumbo, and ended up being about Pokemon Go! By which time I had imagined the McCarthyist version of Pokemon, gotta catch ’em all, i.e. Catch all the Commies, but as a mobile game. Sometimes my imagination freaks me out.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@alan

It did, but that was the Taafite sect. The Socalist Party are an actual party, the IMT is a tendency. Ted Grant left in 1992 believing that the Marxists belong within the Labour Party rather than forming their own party.
The Ted Grant group as well as current editor Alan Woods started publishing the Socialist Appeal.

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