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The False Rape Society is shocked — shocked! — by a fraternity’s “who would you rape?” survey.

The False Rape Society is shocked and stunned that frat boys would joke about rape.

So you may have seen the story yesterday about the University of Vermont fraternity that was suspended for sending out a charming little survey that allegedly asked, among other things, “If you could rape someone, who would it be?” (FWIW, the frat now says it was the work of an individual frat member, not the chapter.)

Reading about this incident, I’m guessing that you probably didn’t ask yourself: “I wonder how the guys at the False Rape Society will use this news to push their own agenda?” Heck, I didn’t even think to ask myself that question. But while doing the rounds of the MRA blogs I’ve discovered the answer to that question, and here it is: FRS head honcho Pierce Harlan described the survey as “perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape,” then denounced it as “indefensible,” then ranted about the evils of false rape accusations. I guess that isn’t really shocking at all.

First, Harlan offered this take on the “who would you rape” question:

I assume the survey was sick humor, a crude satire of the fratboy culture, and perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape.

Yes, because any time men make rape jokes it’s probably because, you know, feminism, and its wacky obsession with rape.

Then Harlan went on to suggest that rape was no laughing matter – especially when it comes to rape that doesn’t happen:

Whatever it was intended to be, ultimately it is indefensible, because trivializing the word “rape” is no laughing matter, whether it’s a joke about the rape of male prisoners, or the fantasy “rape” of women, or a false rape claim intended to get a guy in, or a woman out of, trouble.

Well, that was quick. Let’s not talk about the trivialization of real rape. Let’s talk about the epidemic of “false rape accusations” that Harlan has convinced himself is the real problem here.

With nary a pause, Harlan moved on to complain about hypothetical feminists making a big deal out of this survey instead of joining him on his crusade:

There most certainly will be an outcry in the feminist blogosphere over this isolated incident

This what incident?

and it will be cited as proof positive to support the myth that ours is a  “rape culture.”

Yeah, I wonder why casual jokes about rape would possibly be considered as part of “rape culture.”

A “rape culture,” of course, not only would tolerate but would condone such a puerile survey.  Our society does neither. The only “rape” jokes our society condones concerns prison rape — and that’s because society actually encourages prison rape as a sort of “added bonus” punishment for any hapless male who lands in prison.  It is ironic that actual prison rape does not garner the outrage that this this sick fratboy humor is generating. Go figure.

This from a guy who doesn’t seem to have ever even bothered to mention the leading anti-prison rape organization, Just Detention, on his web site. (See here for more on the issue on Man Boobz.) Though he does offer three links on his main page to information about the statute of limitation for rape charges, in case anyone reading is worried about getting caught being falsely accused for something they did didn’t do a long time ago.

Meanwhile,rape jokes — and not just prison rape jokes — are everywhere. Harlan, I assume you are at least somewhat familiar with a little site called Reddit, where people not only laugh at rape jokes – they laugh at actual rape!

Meanwhile, in the comments on Harlan’s article, some False Rape Society readers don’t even bother to pretend that the “rape survey” bothers them. According to the commenter called “bad,”

We should be celebrating young men who stand up against misandry. We should be celebrating the frat that said “no means yes” and we should be celebrating the frat that created this survey, if it’s a real story.

An anonymous commenter takes it a step further:

I do not condemn this action,

in fact, I wish I’d thought of it.

It is a brilliant and very appropriate response to the way young men are being treated by college campuses.

When the answer to “who would you like to treat like a rapist” is “all college men”, I think that asking them who they’d like to rape is more than fair.

But it is Harlan’s response to these comments that is the most revealing:

By the way, I read the reaction of Bad and others as a natural backlash … against the unconscionable PC culture of misandry on campus. I happen to disagree with those who suggest this was acceptable, but their remarks should not be construed as evidence that we live in a “rape culture.” Like Steve, I read their comments more as an affirmation that we live in a false rape culture–a culture that more and more men are finding intolerable.

I, on the other hand, doubt that these young men have the first clue about misandry, feminism, or how colleges run roughshod over the rights of young men. I am always amazed when we hear from falsely accused people who “had not idea this goes on.” My guess is they were just being being “funny.” I would, frankly, love to find out I am wrong, and that not only would they never call for a woman to be actually raped, but that this was a protest against the pendulum swinging too far. In that case, I am still not sure I could find it acceptable but it would initiate an entirely different dialogue.

So the survey is “indefensible,” yet a totally understandable reaction to, and protest against, an “unconscionable PC culture of misandry.”

Got it.

EDITED TO ADD: Harlan has written a response, of sorts, to this post. It is a bit — what’s the word I’m looking for here? — zany.

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Pecunium
10 years ago

Molly: Actually, NWOslave, why DID you want to prove that all therapists are sexist?

He didn’t. No matter what was said the answer (from him) was going to be all therapists hate men, so anyone who suggests therapy is telling men to learn to hate themselves.

NWO: Don’t worry about that chart, starting in 2012 all hard sciences will be quota mandatory.

Stop lying. I read the article you linked to. It said that in 2012 a study would be funded to see about the causes for inequalities in enrollment in various disciplines.

There is no authority to make regulation, much less laws. The results will be used to consider any need for institutional changes, and be used in making any recommendations. But that’s all.

SaruGoku
SaruGoku
10 years ago

Joanna said:

“Hang on now, ocean scenery and kittens? Who the hell decorated this place?”

They were obviously catfish.

Dracula
Dracula
10 years ago

#1)If spear was aroused he wasn’t raped. She’s off the hook.

You’re aware (Of course you’re not.) that it’s possible to be aroused and not want to actually go through the sexual act itself, right? Because your brain can make conscious decisions even when you’ve got a boner?

Lauralot
Lauralot
10 years ago

Because your brain can make conscious decisions even when you’ve got a boner?

If NWO were to admit this, he couldn’t claim that women’s slutty clothing is what gets them raped.

Moewicus
Moewicus
10 years ago

Because as every grown man knows, one’s penis always obeys one’s orders when past the age of 18.

zhinxy
10 years ago

“#1)If spear was aroused he wasn’t raped. She’s off the hook.”

Oh, god, how horrible.

zhinxy
10 years ago

“some worry that America’s military superiority and security
will suffer as a result of this reliance on foreign talent.”103
Fortunately, the United States has an untapped pool of
potential workers. If women and members of other traditionally
underrepresented groups, such as racial and ethnic
minorities and individuals with disabilities,”

Actually, truth to tell, I do have a HUGE problem with the “Let’s make sure discrimination isn’t hurting the military industrial complex” logic here, but I doubt that’s the problem I’m supposed to have… or something. Is the military industrial complex good or bad? Please help me out here, NWO?

Also, how much government do I want, and how much do you want? Would you be willing to debate me elsewhere on these matters?

zhinxy
10 years ago

Lauralot – Actually, the Amish are a type of Mennonite…

I’m not sure he knows that, though…

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

I find it amusing (for varying definitions of amusing) that NWOslave thinks a woman could be responsible for her own rape, but not a rape she actually commits.

zhinxy
10 years ago

Spearhafoc – It really is something, isn’t it?

Lauralot
Lauralot
10 years ago

@zhinxy: I would bet money that he doesn’t.

VoiP
VoiP
10 years ago

I find it amusing (for varying definitions of amusing) that NWOslave thinks a woman could be responsible for her own rape, but not a rape she actually commits.

It’s simple if you remember that in NWO’s universe

1. Women do not feel sexual desire
2. But men always do

VoiP
VoiP
10 years ago

NOW, do you believe women want to have sex? Does sex — not the cultural narrative we’ve built up around the act, but the basic fact of nerve endings answering stimulation — feel good to women?

Molly Ren
10 years ago

Holy shit, NWOslave actually answered Ozy!

zhinxy
10 years ago

WHY DID YOU ANSWER OZY ABOUT THE TAXES AND NOT ME???

Xanthe
Xanthe
10 years ago

Quid pro quo… NWO has dibs on a free role play on Ozy at another time.

zhinxy
10 years ago

Xanthe – This is true. Still, i’m disappointed! :p

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

@zhinxy
Stop pretending to be anything but someone who want’s more government.

Oh? xD How is she pretending? What does she REALLY believe huh? And how do you know this? xD

Unlike you, (mr. I want the government to do everything for me and oppress women b/c freedom means trans ppl, gay ppl, abortions and … GASP SLUTS) she actually has laid out ideas for a state-free society, she has articulated these things, she’s shown she’s read up on the topic. Outside of you giving lip service to “I don’t like the state RAWR!” you haven’t articulated NETHING else but wanting more gov XD So I think you’re the one who needs to stop pretending XD

Xanthe
Xanthe
10 years ago

The NWO giveth, and the NWO taketh away… at one point yesterday he said he could listen to me all night, a couple of hours later and I’m back to being one of dem ebil feminists.

zhinxy
10 years ago

Xanthe – “The NWO giveth, and the NWO taketh away… at one point yesterday he said he could listen to me all night, a couple of hours later and I’m back to being one of dem ebil feminists.”

Fickle, fickle man!

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

There’s a simple way for you to prove that Zhinxy is lying and doesn’t believe in Libertarianism btw NWO.

A very easy way :3

She’s alrdy offered it to you and you ran away remember? xD

So I’ll offer it again 😀 And you can take it or forever hold your peace xD

She challenged you to a Libertarian debate before…

the challenge is still open…

You claim to be the expert, you claim that she’s lying and therefore you must have reasons why you think she’s lying, reasons you can readily show (since they’re apparent to you :3 )

So.. expose her. 😀

WHAT SAY YOU BRAVE GLADIATOR OF THE WHITE SHAFT!

DO YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE OF ZHINXY, CORRUPTER OF CAUSES?

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/ZhinxyCorrupterofCauses.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/NWOslave.jpg

zhinxy
10 years ago

Yeah, seriously, NWO, if it’s this obvious I am pretending, I should be easy to expose, right? 🙂

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/NWOslaveTactics.jpg

Be careful my Dark Sister, NWOslave is more clever than he appears.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

“Be careful my Dark Sister, NWOslave is more clever than he appears.”

Well, that’s not exactly difficult.

Martina
Martina
10 years ago

How about the right to use words (expression) ! If you infer that the Frat guy is pro- rape, he has that right.

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