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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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Spearhafoc
10 years ago

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Hey, don’t ignore the benefits of intersectionality. I think we can make important inroads to the Dalek community.

Bailey
10 years ago

Interesting that the comments all run along the lines of, “I will do violent things to a feminist until she gives in” as opposed to, “I am an adult who has the ability to have a normal conversation with a woman over an issue of disagreement.”

Also, how is that question in any way a ‘gotcha’ type question? Of course I recognize the rights to existence of non-feminists. I FEEL SO PUT ON THE SPOT NOW.

I don’t agree with the stance of people like this, but unlike them, I’m not going to threaten them with violence or commit violence against them until they’re in so much pain that they’ll agree with me to get me to stop. That’s called torture.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
10 years ago

Scarecrow said he was joking, and I know that his boiled potato tennis ball torture device would never happen, but it really freaks me out that someone would ever dream up such an idea. In his next comment he calls women “rat faced, smelly vermin”. Everything he says sounds very scary.

Steph
10 years ago

…wh… what’s it supposed to lead in to?
Unless he seriously expects the conversation to go: “No.” “A-HA!”
Is there a series of follow-up questions that’s supposed to lead to a clever trap, or something? (Like when Ray Comfort ask if people have ever stolen anything, and takes a “yes” as an admission that they’re completely evil.)

Kita
10 years ago

They just looooove to “reveal” feminists for the hypocrites they are by spouting nonsense, then not getting replies from some magical mythical feminist overlord.

zombie rotten mcdonald
10 years ago

What I want – nay, DEMAND – to know is, just where feminists come down on the issue of allowing the post-living to exist?

Sharculese
10 years ago

Hey, don’t ignore the benefits of intersectionality. I think we can make important inroads to the Dalek community.

because that worked out so well for dalek sec…

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
10 years ago

Don’t worry zombie rotten mcdonald, I think we should let zombie humans exist, even the ones who keep eating our brains. I draw the line, though, at radioactive zombears, because they’re so damn mean.

shaenon
10 years ago

Man, I’d totally forgotten about that Scarecrow guy, so this update is kind of nice, like reading the class notes in the University of Assholes alumni magazine. Boiled potatoes. Huh.

Kollege Messerschmitt
10 years ago

Why are they so afraid of being called misogynists? Even saying that is was TOTALLY A JOKE YOU GUYS doesn’t make it less misogynist.
They kind of understand that being called a misogynist is a bad thing, but they don’t understand that they aren’t being called misogynists to insult them, but because they are, in fact, advocating misogyny.
If they think it’s bad to be a misogynist, why don’t they just stop being misogynists?
It just doesn’t make any sense.

Anyway, Daleks still rock!

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqn8FxuyFs&w=420&h=315%5D

(totes the hymn of feminism!)

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

Yes.

*Sips tea*

Need to know
10 years ago

zombie rotten mcdonald- dude, we’re cool.

Leo Salloum
Leo Salloum
10 years ago

I’m going to be a bit more generous than this idea likely deserves and try to turn it into not-crazy. Is it at all possible that this dude Snark believes that feminists will try to convert non-feminists into believing in the legitimacy of feminism?

This would not be a peculiarity of feminism, though. Classical liberals try to convince everyone to believe in classical liberalism. They are working for a world where no one denies the truth of classical liberalism. Therefore (I guess), they deny the right to exist of people who are not classical liberals.

I don’t see a particular problem with a world where there are only feminists. Getting there through some kind of final solution would be a bad idea, but if we got there through rational argument and through persuasion, there is no problem.

Is that what Fidelbogen and Snark are talking about? That dastardly feminists are trying to convince them using reasonable arguments to stop being wrong? Aren’t the MRAs trying to convince people as well?

I’d also like to point out that, as someone who is not an MRA, I don’t particularly care if Fidelbogen and Snark recognize my right to exist. I’m going to go on existing in either case, so the question is entirely moot.

zombie rotten mcdonald
10 years ago

why BOILED potatoes?

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Um… Yes.

Any follow-up questions?

(I think everyone should be a feminist, but only in the sense I think everyone should learn about the scientific method– not in the Dalek sense.)

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Of course non-feminists exist, entire MRA community, meet Michelle Bachmann. Michelle Bachmann, meet the MRA community.

I would introduce them to Phyllis Schafly but I do not want them to start sobbing and sucking their thumbs at their entire world order being destroyed.

katz
10 years ago

EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE

Leo Salloum
Leo Salloum
10 years ago

@Holly: Reading the non-potato related comment, it really seems like the idea of convincing MRAs to adopt feminism is the sense that is meant here.

…a nonfeminist has the right to exist only after he has been converted to the feminist persuasion

So… that’s a little odd. It seems as if the entire process of rational debate (through which a person might change his or her mind) is offensive to these people.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

“Well, we’re out of feminism! We only had three bits, we weren’t expecting such a rush.”

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Leo – Yeah, they don’t seem to get nuances like “I want you to change your mind, but I don’t want it so much that I’m going to hurt you or anything if you don’t.”

It’s possible to disagree with, even dislike, someone, and still not potato-torture dislike them.

…you’re supposed to learn that in kindergarten.

zombie rotten mcdonald
10 years ago

if non-feminists didn’t exist, who would troll Manboobz?

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

That seems more like the claim is “Feminists will exterminate everyone who disagrees with them” to my eyes, Leo.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Yes. That cover it?

That potato thing was creepy, joke or not.

Kollege Messerschmitt
10 years ago

I think that’s (once again) projecting from their side.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Why do “jokes” like the potato thing never have a punchline?

…and why do they always sound eerily masturbatory?

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