So here’s an interesting chart. Guess what it represents?
A) The membership of the David Duke Fan Club
B) The racial breakdown of the most successful Liberace impersonators
C) The demographics of the Men’s Rights subreddit
Well, ok, that was too easy. It is of course all of the above. I’m guessing. It’s definitely C, at least, as this chart was prepared to show the results of the 2013 Men’s Rights subreddit demographic survey.
Now, you might say, well, isn’t Reddit itself a pretty white place? And you would be right. But the Men’s Rights subreddit seems to be a bit whiter — and a lot less black — than Reddit as a whole, if Quantcast’s estimates of Reddit’s overall ethnic breakdown are accurate.
In other completely non-surprising news, 89% of Men’s Rights Redditors are men. And a lot of them are libertarians. MRAs complain endlessly that we pigeonhole them as a bunch of entitled white dudes. They’re really not doing much to challenge that assumption.
The most important issue to these fellas (and the small minority that aren’t fellas)? Survey says: False rape accusations.
Other critical issues to the Men’s Rightsers include “custody rights” (which is a bit odd because 92% of those surveyed have no kids), “legal discrimination” (whatever that means), “education discrimination” (this is a thing?), and “male disposability.”
“Male birth control” and “paper abortion,” while relatively less important to the Men’s Rightsers, each got hundreds of votes.
I’m surprised “friendzoning” isn’t at the top of the list, but unfortunately it wasn’t one of the choices. I blame misandry.
I am behind in reading and somewhat cross-eyed from looking at spreadsheets all night (yup, it’s a wild Friday night for me), but did OF actually ask us to supply the heights of all the men dated by feminists? Does he think we keep an Access database or something?
I’ve dated guys anywhere from 5ft6 to 6ft5. I guess I’m misandrist sometimes and not at other times?
But yeah, lol at the hypocrisy. He’ll fit right in with the MRM, for sure.
What, no one offered to share the spreadsheet with you on Google docs? We must remedy this oversight immediately.
Also, some dude just tried to randomly hit on me via Skype, and he lives at the other end of the state. Why do people do that? Like, did he think I might get on a plane down to LA right now and fuck him?
“Definitely male // female so it can include
minorsFurrinati.”Can’t have the sneaky keyboard infiltrators feeling left out.
“I am behind in reading and somewhat cross-eyed from looking at spreadsheets all night (yup, it’s a wild Friday night for me),”
cloudiah, you have all the fun! ::pouts::
My mom married two relatively short men, so does she get double the Good Woman points or does she lose points for not remaining the property of the first man who laid claim?
Probably the latter, Viscaria, ‘cos Bad Woman points always outweigh Good Woman points.
*fistbump* I just spent an hour changing 4s to 3s, 5s to 4s, 6s to 5s, 7s to 6s, and 8s to 7s. It was thrilling.
Do the MRAs keep track of all their partners’ heights? Let’s at least try to get some symmetry in record-keeping.
@Katz
Wouldn’t there be an easier way to do that?
Hellkell, have some Purple sage.
I’m in a bit of strife with this height thingie. My dad was short – about the same height as my mum. My father-in-law was a bit shorter than that, but taller than m-i-l. My husband and I were about the same height, but I’m taller now – that may not last once shrinking-old-lady-itis sets in. One daughter’s partner is shorter than she is, the other has a taller partner.
So. Are we or are we not a bunch of misandrists? Does this status change as age and injury affect individuals? What to do, what to do! I’m all confuzzled.
Also, for those of us who’re on the petite side (just over 5ft2 in my case), how are we supposed to consistently find men who’re shorter than we are?
There would be if I was changing every 4 to a 3.
Aren’t young girls usually taller than young boys of the same age? If you had some cute playground romance as a girl, you were probably a budding misandrist.
Of course, if you were off riding the alpha (non-cock) carousel instead, that’s probably also misandristicalous. What’s a child to do?
@Katz
Aah.
Also, what about regional variation? I’m 5’8″, which is smallish in my native Australia, and dating me would therefore be non-misandrist, but what if I were with a lady and we moved to Vietnam, where I’d be quite tall? At which point does she become a misandrist? Getting her passport stamped? Crossing the border? Entering the Vietnamese airspace? Does my habit of wearing Cuban heels affect this at all?
So… if I’m taller than a woman, and she won’t date me, then she’s not being misandrist, but egalitarian? got it.
@CassandraSays
Carry a chainsaw for Human Rights.
Pecunium — only if she’s thinner than you? Gotta keep those beauty standards consistant! (Also, that basically ensures you can date anyone old enough to legally date)
I am SO adding “a scrawny ass” to the smart ass question! XD
lowquacks – good point! My former French barista (who’s sold his cafe – sob) is 5′ 7″ and said it’s average in France, but when he’s here he’s short.
My FiL is shorter than my MiL and Mr K is shorter than his first wife. My SiL is way shorter than her husband and he’s only 5′ 4″. Misandry, misandry everywhere, even in arranged marriages!
I am 5’8″ and I am more attracted generally to men taller than me, but the majority of the men I have actually dated for extended periods have been shorter than me, though admittedly not by much.
I … am not sure what to make of that. Which is why we need MOAR DATA. Send me that spreadsheet, Cassandra.
@Kittehs
I would’ve assumed the French were tall! Hmm.
If you were wondering, Lavvy’s still around. He’s a little feak and weeble and on antiinflamatories and pain medication (which he’s very good about taking!) but still very cuddly and purry and happy-seeming.
Ooooh! Prob’ly the reason those relationships haven’t lasted is that I am height-hypergamous! I have found a solution that jibes with the manosphere, and I can go to sleep now, dreaming of my perfectly accurate spreadsheets (according to my boss, who is apparently also having a fun Friday night).
@lowquacks, Yay for cuddly, purry, happy cats. It’s a good world with more of them in it. Thanks for the update!
Niters, cloudiah!
lowquacks – I don’t remember being towered over when I visited France back in the day (I was a couple of inches taller then), come to think of it. Certainly my in-laws were about average height or a smidgen shorter for their earthly days; “middle-sized comely proportion” is how one bloke described Louis. Only Bourbon I know of who’s tall-tall is Louis’s niece Mlle de Montpensier, who was way tall for the time, and much taller than the short fellow she may have secretly married.
(Back in the day = 1989 and 1993.)
And yay for Lavvy!! ::is embarrassed to have forgotten to type that first::
I was born after or during the day then!
Aw, Lavender. He’s all “wtf are you doing to me, human”.
He’s so beautifuuuuuuuuul.
Hi, Lavvy!
I’m still awake and I want to point you to this hilarious comment:
Women should stop being so slutty about falling in toilets with the seats up! DON’T CALL ME A VICTIM BLAMER FOR SPEAKING THE TROOF.
Spreadsheet finished. The glamorous life of a librarian is … glamorous. Don’t hate me because I’m … glamorous.
But you’re so glamorous, cloudiah! envy envy envy
What on earth was that word salad about? I can’t make any connections there at all.
How recent are toilet seats anyway? Hard to have a fundamental difference based on something that probably popped up in the last 600 years or so and isn’t actually that widely used internationally.
I love how /r/mister’s idea of a victory is a stupid joke somebody made about toilet seats.
Heey!
As a lurker, and a very unfrequent commenter, I would like to participate on the survey.
Maybe I’m being an idiot. Where does one have to sign up?
Notice he’s yet another one who talks as if rape is just something that happens, like “preventing rape” is in the same category as taking an umbrella in case it rains. The fact that rape is an active, deliberate choice by one person (usually a man) to abuse someone else is something they don’t want mentioned, because that puts the onus on the perpertrator instead of the victim. Can’t have that, can we? Can’t undermine the story that rape is all about women preventing it, not men not doing it.
(I’m talking about male-on-female rape here as the most prevalent, and the sort that MRAs talk about and promote.)
Hi, Summer! Have you had your Welcome Package yet?
That’s not a silly question at all, I don’t know how we’ll get into the survey either. 🙂
I don’t think Argenti’s done writing the survey yet. When zie is, I think David will probably make a post about it.
Needs a Likert-type scale from “very much” to “very very very very very much” for “how much do you like cats?”.
I wonder if there’ll be questions for the furkids?
Your human:
1) feeds you adequately
2) is well trained
3) spends far too much time on that machine
etc
lowquacks – oh, YES! 🙂
Here something amusing for you guys: A 6-year-old wrote out
?w=900″ rel=”nofollow”>this card for my kitten and was doing great until she got to the kitten’s name. (I pixelated out our names.)
Did she go to write “Violent” instead of Violet?
Could be a warning of Dangerous Cat Ahead! 😀
“Heey!
As a lurker, and a very unfrequent commenter, I would like to participate on the survey.
Maybe I’m being an idiot. Where does one have to sign up?”
Katz nailed that one.
And I am nearly done listing ALL THE FUCKING RELIGIONS and am currently feeling like I should be shot if I ever so much as suggest doing that again! Do you guys know how many religious subgroups there are?! And I’m not even trying to list all the schools of Islam or the individual Buddhist schools. I’m talking major sects and indigenous // aboriginal religions (which is actually not as bad as it sounds, because reporting on them sucks). Like, Christianity is probably the biggest, but least annoying to research (also, I have more than a basic level of knowledge on that one).
Down to just Judaism…and paganism. Why do I suspect I’m really going to hate myself before the night is over? Someone please send me good drugs.
So guys politics, give me a list or I’m resorting to wiki (which has actually been pretty good about filling in the gaps in world religions)
And w00t for Lavvy!
“Needs a Likert-type scale from “very much” to “very very very very very much” for “how much do you like cats?”.”
An easy fun one! Thank you!!!
And I’d guess toilet seats to be more like 150~ as flush toilets are Very Fucking New.
Politically the board seems to be mostly social democratic/green democratic/US liberal types with a smattering of anarchists (BlackBloc and me, at least) and other non-authoritarian socialists. We had one poster who was very keen on Maoism, too, but I forget who.
Social Democrat/US Liberal – Anarchist – Orthodox Marxist – Marxism-Leninism or MLM – Green movement – Democratic Socialist/other Socialist would probably cover most of the views of people here (maybe with the addition of Black Power/other racially nationalistic groups?). But if you want all the political orientations, that’d be a heap of work.
Social Conservatives, classical liberals, fascists, third position types, monarchists, theocrats, all sorts.
Argenti, here’s
” rel=”nofollow”>a great and powerful divine cat to give you strength.
lowquacks — I’m 178 religions deep at this point, a massive political list would almost be a relief (I wasn’t even remotely kidding about ALL THE FUCKING RELIGIONS)
At least I can save this if I ever need it again.
Social democrat
Green democrat
Other US liberal
Anarchist
Other non-authoritarian
Democratic Socialist
Other socialist
Maoist
Orthodox Marxist
Marxism-Leninism // MLM
Black Power
Other racially nationalist groups [expand]
Social Conservatives
Classical liberals
Fascists
third position types[?]
Monarchist
Theocrat
Keep ’em coming. Until you hit 100+ this is easier than religion!
Kitteh — thank you!