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Mighty White of You

 June 20, 2013
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So here’s an interesting chart. Guess what it represents?

A) The membership of the David Duke Fan Club

B) The racial breakdown of the most successful Liberace impersonators

C) The demographics of the Men’s Rights subreddit

Well, ok, that was too easy. It is of course all of the above. I’m guessing. It’s definitely C, at least, as this chart was prepared to show the results of the 2013 Men’s Rights subreddit demographic survey.

Now, you might say, well, isn’t Reddit itself a pretty white place? And you would be right. But the Men’s Rights subreddit seems to be a bit whiter — and a lot less black — than Reddit as a whole, if Quantcast’s estimates of Reddit’s overall ethnic breakdown are accurate.

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In other completely non-surprising news, 89% of Men’s Rights Redditors are men. And a lot of them are libertarians. MRAs complain endlessly that we pigeonhole them as a bunch of entitled white dudes. They’re really not doing much to challenge that assumption.

The most important issue to these fellas (and the small minority that aren’t fellas)? Survey says: False rape accusations.

Other critical issues to the Men’s Rightsers include “custody rights” (which is a bit odd because 92% of those surveyed have no kids), “legal discrimination” (whatever that means), “education discrimination” (this is a thing?), and “male disposability.”

“Male birth control” and “paper abortion,” while relatively less important to the Men’s Rightsers, each got hundreds of votes.

I’m surprised “friendzoning” isn’t at the top of the list, but unfortunately it wasn’t one of the choices. I blame misandry.

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  1. cloudiah says:
    June 21, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    I am behind in reading and somewhat cross-eyed from looking at spreadsheets all night (yup, it’s a wild Friday night for me), but did OF actually ask us to supply the heights of all the men dated by feminists? Does he think we keep an Access database or something?

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  2. CassandraSays says:
    June 21, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    I’ve dated guys anywhere from 5ft6 to 6ft5. I guess I’m misandrist sometimes and not at other times?

    But yeah, lol at the hypocrisy. He’ll fit right in with the MRM, for sure.

    Reply
  3. CassandraSays says:
    June 21, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    What, no one offered to share the spreadsheet with you on Google docs? We must remedy this oversight immediately.

    Also, some dude just tried to randomly hit on me via Skype, and he lives at the other end of the state. Why do people do that? Like, did he think I might get on a plane down to LA right now and fuck him?

    Reply
  4. Kittehserf says:
    June 21, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    “Definitely male // female so it can include minors Furrinati.”

    Can’t have the sneaky keyboard infiltrators feeling left out.

    “I am behind in reading and somewhat cross-eyed from looking at spreadsheets all night (yup, it’s a wild Friday night for me),”

    cloudiah, you have all the fun! ::pouts::

    Reply
  5. Viscaria says:
    June 21, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    My mom married two relatively short men, so does she get double the Good Woman points or does she lose points for not remaining the property of the first man who laid claim?

    Reply
  6. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:01 am

    Probably the latter, Viscaria, ‘cos Bad Woman points always outweigh Good Woman points.

    Reply
  7. katz says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:09 am

    I am behind in reading and somewhat cross-eyed from looking at spreadsheets all night (yup, it’s a wild Friday night for me)

    *fistbump* I just spent an hour changing 4s to 3s, 5s to 4s, 6s to 5s, 7s to 6s, and 8s to 7s. It was thrilling.

    Reply
  8. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:10 am

    Do the MRAs keep track of all their partners’ heights? Let’s at least try to get some symmetry in record-keeping.

    Reply
  9. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:11 am

    @Katz

    Wouldn’t there be an easier way to do that?

    Reply
  10. pecunium says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:11 am

    Hellkell, have some Purple sage.

    Reply
  11. mildlymagnificent says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:14 am

    I’m in a bit of strife with this height thingie. My dad was short – about the same height as my mum. My father-in-law was a bit shorter than that, but taller than m-i-l. My husband and I were about the same height, but I’m taller now – that may not last once shrinking-old-lady-itis sets in. One daughter’s partner is shorter than she is, the other has a taller partner.

    So. Are we or are we not a bunch of misandrists? Does this status change as age and injury affect individuals? What to do, what to do! I’m all confuzzled.

    Reply
  12. CassandraSays says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:15 am

    Also, for those of us who’re on the petite side (just over 5ft2 in my case), how are we supposed to consistently find men who’re shorter than we are?

    Reply
  13. katz says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Wouldn’t there be an easier way to do that?

    There would be if I was changing every 4 to a 3.

    Reply
  14. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Does this status change as age and injury affect individuals?

    Aren’t young girls usually taller than young boys of the same age? If you had some cute playground romance as a girl, you were probably a budding misandrist.

    Of course, if you were off riding the alpha (non-cock) carousel instead, that’s probably also misandristicalous. What’s a child to do?

    Reply
  15. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:17 am

    @Katz

    Aah.

    Reply
  16. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:20 am

    Also, what about regional variation? I’m 5’8″, which is smallish in my native Australia, and dating me would therefore be non-misandrist, but what if I were with a lady and we moved to Vietnam, where I’d be quite tall? At which point does she become a misandrist? Getting her passport stamped? Crossing the border? Entering the Vietnamese airspace? Does my habit of wearing Cuban heels affect this at all?

    Reply
  17. pecunium says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:23 am

    So… if I’m taller than a woman, and she won’t date me, then she’s not being misandrist, but egalitarian? got it.

    Reply
  18. Nepenthe says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:23 am

    @CassandraSays

    Carry a chainsaw for Human Rights.

    Reply
  19. Argenti Aertheri says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:28 am

    Pecunium — only if she’s thinner than you? Gotta keep those beauty standards consistant! (Also, that basically ensures you can date anyone old enough to legally date)

    I am SO adding “a scrawny ass” to the smart ass question! XD

    Reply
  20. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:33 am

    lowquacks – good point! My former French barista (who’s sold his cafe – sob) is 5′ 7″ and said it’s average in France, but when he’s here he’s short.

    My FiL is shorter than my MiL and Mr K is shorter than his first wife. My SiL is way shorter than her husband and he’s only 5′ 4″. Misandry, misandry everywhere, even in arranged marriages!

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  21. cloudiah says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:34 am

    I am 5’8″ and I am more attracted generally to men taller than me, but the majority of the men I have actually dated for extended periods have been shorter than me, though admittedly not by much.

    I … am not sure what to make of that. Which is why we need MOAR DATA. Send me that spreadsheet, Cassandra.

    Reply
  22. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:36 am

    @Kittehs

    I would’ve assumed the French were tall! Hmm.

    If you were wondering, Lavvy’s still around. He’s a little feak and weeble and on antiinflamatories and pain medication (which he’s very good about taking!) but still very cuddly and purry and happy-seeming.

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  23. cloudiah says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:36 am

    Ooooh! Prob’ly the reason those relationships haven’t lasted is that I am height-hypergamous! I have found a solution that jibes with the manosphere, and I can go to sleep now, dreaming of my perfectly accurate spreadsheets (according to my boss, who is apparently also having a fun Friday night).

    Reply
  24. cloudiah says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:37 am

    @lowquacks, Yay for cuddly, purry, happy cats. It’s a good world with more of them in it. Thanks for the update!

    Reply
  25. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:41 am

    Niters, cloudiah!

    lowquacks – I don’t remember being towered over when I visited France back in the day (I was a couple of inches taller then), come to think of it. Certainly my in-laws were about average height or a smidgen shorter for their earthly days; “middle-sized comely proportion” is how one bloke described Louis. Only Bourbon I know of who’s tall-tall is Louis’s niece Mlle de Montpensier, who was way tall for the time, and much taller than the short fellow she may have secretly married.

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  26. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:41 am

    (Back in the day = 1989 and 1993.)

    Reply
  27. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:42 am

    And yay for Lavvy!! ::is embarrassed to have forgotten to type that first::

    Reply
  28. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:45 am

    I was born after or during the day then!

    ” rel=”nofollow”>Lavender says hello to Man Boobz (or that he wants lowquacks-cuddles and kisses, anyway).

    Reply
  29. CassandraSays says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:48 am

    Aw, Lavender. He’s all “wtf are you doing to me, human”.

    Reply
  30. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:49 am

    He’s so beautifuuuuuuuuul.

    Reply
  31. katz says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Hi, Lavvy!

    Reply
  32. cloudiah says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:55 am

    I’m still awake and I want to point you to this hilarious comment:

    This [argument about toilets] seems to be a fundamental difference between men and women. Not so much just the great toilet seat debate, but more like the the difference in thinking between telling a woman to take precautions when she goes out, and feminists calling you a victim-blamer because a woman shouldn’t have to take precautions. One gender generally prepares for the worst, and the other just does whatever, and to hell with the outcome (until shit hits the fan, of course…then it’s not her fault).

    Women should stop being so slutty about falling in toilets with the seats up! DON’T CALL ME A VICTIM BLAMER FOR SPEAKING THE TROOF.

    Spreadsheet finished. The glamorous life of a librarian is … glamorous. Don’t hate me because I’m … glamorous.

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  33. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 12:57 am

    But you’re so glamorous, cloudiah! envy envy envy

    What on earth was that word salad about? I can’t make any connections there at all.

    Reply
  34. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:01 am

    How recent are toilet seats anyway? Hard to have a fundamental difference based on something that probably popped up in the last 600 years or so and isn’t actually that widely used internationally.

    Reply
  35. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:02 am

    I love how /r/mister’s idea of a victory is a stupid joke somebody made about toilet seats.

    Reply
  36. Summer says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:05 am

    Heey!
    As a lurker, and a very unfrequent commenter, I would like to participate on the survey.
    Maybe I’m being an idiot. Where does one have to sign up?

    Reply
  37. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:07 am

    Notice he’s yet another one who talks as if rape is just something that happens, like “preventing rape” is in the same category as taking an umbrella in case it rains. The fact that rape is an active, deliberate choice by one person (usually a man) to abuse someone else is something they don’t want mentioned, because that puts the onus on the perpertrator instead of the victim. Can’t have that, can we? Can’t undermine the story that rape is all about women preventing it, not men not doing it.

    (I’m talking about male-on-female rape here as the most prevalent, and the sort that MRAs talk about and promote.)

    Reply
  38. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:09 am

    Hi, Summer! Have you had your Welcome Package yet?

    That’s not a silly question at all, I don’t know how we’ll get into the survey either. 🙂

    Reply
  39. katz says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:24 am

    I don’t think Argenti’s done writing the survey yet. When zie is, I think David will probably make a post about it.

    Reply
  40. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:36 am

    Needs a Likert-type scale from “very much” to “very very very very very much” for “how much do you like cats?”.

    Reply
  41. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:36 am

    I wonder if there’ll be questions for the furkids?

    Your human:

    1) feeds you adequately
    2) is well trained
    3) spends far too much time on that machine

    etc

    Reply
  42. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:39 am

    lowquacks – oh, YES! 🙂

    Reply
  43. katz says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:43 am

    Here something amusing for you guys: A 6-year-old wrote out ?w=900″ rel=”nofollow”>this card for my kitten and was doing great until she got to the kitten’s name. (I pixelated out our names.)

    Reply
  44. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 1:47 am

    Did she go to write “Violent” instead of Violet?

    Could be a warning of Dangerous Cat Ahead! 😀

    Reply
  45. Argenti Aertheri says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:01 am

    “Heey!
    As a lurker, and a very unfrequent commenter, I would like to participate on the survey.
    Maybe I’m being an idiot. Where does one have to sign up?”

    Katz nailed that one.

    And I am nearly done listing ALL THE FUCKING RELIGIONS and am currently feeling like I should be shot if I ever so much as suggest doing that again! Do you guys know how many religious subgroups there are?! And I’m not even trying to list all the schools of Islam or the individual Buddhist schools. I’m talking major sects and indigenous // aboriginal religions (which is actually not as bad as it sounds, because reporting on them sucks). Like, Christianity is probably the biggest, but least annoying to research (also, I have more than a basic level of knowledge on that one).

    Down to just Judaism…and paganism. Why do I suspect I’m really going to hate myself before the night is over? Someone please send me good drugs.

    So guys politics, give me a list or I’m resorting to wiki (which has actually been pretty good about filling in the gaps in world religions)

    Reply
  46. Argenti Aertheri says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:03 am

    And w00t for Lavvy!

    “Needs a Likert-type scale from “very much” to “very very very very very much” for “how much do you like cats?”.”

    An easy fun one! Thank you!!!

    And I’d guess toilet seats to be more like 150~ as flush toilets are Very Fucking New.

    Reply
  47. lowquacks says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:12 am

    Politically the board seems to be mostly social democratic/green democratic/US liberal types with a smattering of anarchists (BlackBloc and me, at least) and other non-authoritarian socialists. We had one poster who was very keen on Maoism, too, but I forget who.

    Social Democrat/US Liberal – Anarchist – Orthodox Marxist – Marxism-Leninism or MLM – Green movement – Democratic Socialist/other Socialist would probably cover most of the views of people here (maybe with the addition of Black Power/other racially nationalistic groups?). But if you want all the political orientations, that’d be a heap of work.

    Social Conservatives, classical liberals, fascists, third position types, monarchists, theocrats, all sorts.

    Reply
  48. Kittehserf says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:15 am

    Argenti, here’s ” rel=”nofollow”>a great and powerful divine cat to give you strength.

    Reply
  49. Argenti Aertheri says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:25 am

    lowquacks — I’m 178 religions deep at this point, a massive political list would almost be a relief (I wasn’t even remotely kidding about ALL THE FUCKING RELIGIONS)

    At least I can save this if I ever need it again.

    Social democrat
    Green democrat
    Other US liberal
    Anarchist
    Other non-authoritarian
    Democratic Socialist
    Other socialist
    Maoist
    Orthodox Marxist
    Marxism-Leninism // MLM
    Black Power
    Other racially nationalist groups [expand]
    Social Conservatives
    Classical liberals
    Fascists
    third position types[?]
    Monarchist
    Theocrat

    Keep ’em coming. Until you hit 100+ this is easier than religion!

    Reply
  50. Argenti Aertheri says:
    June 22, 2013 at 2:26 am

    Kitteh — thank you!

    Reply
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