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Should I change the name of the blog to “We Invented Your Fucking Tampoons, for Fucks Sake?”

By David Futrelle

Maybe it’s time to change the name of this blog.

As many of you know, the current name is an ironic reference to a rant by one MRA type who was angry that women weren’t showing the proper gratitude for all that men had allegedly done for them over the centuries, and who at one point in his rant blurted out “we hunted the mammoth to feed you,” as if he himself were some sort of manly mammoth slayer instead of just some dude ranting on the internet. (Never mind that our ancient ancestors mostly ate plants and smaller game as opposed to these giant monsters with sharp tusks who could easily kill them.)

“We Hunted the Mammoth” has served ably as the name of this blog for years. But now I’m wondering if I should rename it “We Invented Your Fucking Tampoons [sic], for Fucks Sake,” in homage to this exceedingly angry rant from the Incels.co forums.

[RageFuel] How dare women disrespect men when we gave them everything they have now?

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Bitch, we built the fucking society you're benefiting from so much. We allow you to work, vote, we gave you rights, we created the medicines and technology you use every day. We gave you education to learn to bitch about how misogynistic (ugly) men are. We invented your fucking tampoons, for fucks sake. You're so stupid that you wouldn't be able to survive a week without being a whore on OnlyFans. And you dare to tell me on my face I'm too ugly to date you're used up ass? Fuck you whore, I hope you get raped on a empty alley

Who’s this “we,” dude? You haven’t built or invented anything. You can’t claim credit for all the achievements of men throughout the centuries any more than a woman can claim credit for everything women have done to keep civilization running. Wishing rape on someone — real or imaginary, I can’t tell — who turned you down for a date is not an accomplishment. Nor, it goes without saying, are attitudes like this particularly conducive to getting dates in the future.

On the Incels.co forums, of course, almost all the commenters agreed with Uglyme. “Amen. A fucking men,” wrote a commenter called TheLastSorrow, declaring women to be “[t]he most ungrateful gender hands down. They deserve to get abused.”

VinventVanCock agreed, praising Uglyme’s rant as “[p]oetry, hoes should be beaten and enslaved to learn manners.”

Meanwhile, someone called Copexodius_Maximus suggested that Chads were as lazy and ungrateful as women.

Males have to do all that stuff cause we are inferior and have to make up for our ugliness in order to attract women. Chads don’t need to innovate or build, women throw themselves at them, and even take care of them like Jeremy Meeks. Women don’t need to build shit even if they could because they can mostly all attract mates without money or status.

Women love beta males for building society for them, so they can be safe and comfortable enough to fuck Chad more.

Mainlander complained that women aren’t giving out gratitude sex to men for allegedly building the world:

Women are not very good at gratitude and they are utterly incapable of even thinking about doing something sexual or romantic out of gratitude.

“Gratitude sex” is not a thing. It’s especially not a thing when the men demanding it 1) haven’t done anything worthy of gratitude and 2) are so steeped in misogynistic hate that it seeps out their pores.

PS: I’m not going to change the name of the blog.

H/T — ExpelIncels

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Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

Naglfar – Several years ago I overheard a young kid here in Helsinki (apparently a girl, not much older than five) cheerily explain mtf transitioning/sex reassignment surgery to her accompanying adult (older man, probably a grandparent). I didn’t really catch any of the context of that discussion, but it was highly endearing.

She made a mention of buying women’s clothes n’ stuff and the doctor cutting off your “peepee” and replacing it with … (brief pause to find the right word) … “pussy hair!”

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

epitome:

As for other languages, Farsi (Persian) and Twi (a West African language spoken around Ghana) have gender-neutral 3rd-person pronouns, at least according to friends/colleagues who’d sometimes mix up “he” and “she” in English since they weren’t used to making the distinction.

Naglfar:

In much of Africa gender has historically been viewed very differently than in Europe. For instance, among the Igbo people of Nigeria gender roles and expression were much more fluid, and Igbo native speakers often have the same issues relating to gendered pronouns.

I figure it’s one thing to lack gendering in your language, and another to have a fundamentally different understanding of gender. Finnish at least is pretty much “western” in gender construction.

When I was relatively new to speaking English, I was very conscious of using the correct gendering. Then again, I’ve always been a very cautious speaker and easily out of words if I’m at risk of misspeaking. Some other people (especially from other cultural backgrounds) might feel it’s absolutely necessary to keep talking fluently, even if the wording is a hit and miss.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Alan – One must, but what about two? 😛

@Naglfar – Thanks for the article, that was really interesting! I didn’t know that.

It reminded me of how some conservatives say, “Oh, traditional cultures e.g. in Africa have ‘traditional’ gender roles,” but then don’t actually examine the traditions. Sure, many cultures have defined gender roles – e.g. from what I’ve read of the Inuit, they generally have a hunter/gatherer gender distinction – but they don’t always map out to “Western” gender roles and there’s often space for different gender identities.

I’ve always been a very cautious speaker and easily out of words if I’m at risk of misspeaking.

@Lumipuma – I think this might be a personality thing. I’m like that too, being more introverted than extroverted, so while I can read novels in my 2nd language (French), I’m still pretty awkward speaking it. Sometimes I feel as if I didn’t worry so much about being correct I’d be more fluent now. Then again, it can help to be somewhat cautious to make sure you’re understood. In any case, the people I was talking about speak English quite well, they just get tripped up on small things like that.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Epitome

Sure, many cultures have defined gender roles – e.g. from what I’ve read of the Inuit, they generally have a hunter/gatherer gender distinction – but they don’t always map out to “Western” gender roles and there’s often space for different gender identities.

Many cultures also have support for transgender or non-binary identities, like how many indigenous groups in the Americas view Two-Spirit individuals as sacred.

As for defined hunting and gathering distinctions, these are in practice not clear cut across genders. That comes when groups start settling down. Among hunter-gatherers who need every last bit of food they can find, those who can hunt, hunt, and those who can gather, gather; so male gatherers and female hunters aren’t uncommon. Gender roles get much more enforced when groups settle down and live sedentarios, as this leads to increased distribution of labor.

C.A.Collins
C.A.Collins
1 year ago

@Naglfar:
Maybe that’s what Lenona wants you to think. 😉

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

Speaking of misconceptions about tampons and female anatomy….

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@epitome of incomprehensibility

One must, but what about two?

One of my favourite lines from Alice Through the Looking-Glass is when, after Alice as told Humpty-Dumpty she’s seven and a half, he replies that it was a most uncomfortable age, and that she should have left off at seven. “One can’t help growing older, you know.” “One can’t, perhaps, but two can. With proper assistance, you might have left off at seven.”

Alice, smart girl that she is, changes the subject. After all, there really is only one way to stop growing older.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Victorious Parasol
I haven’t watched the video yet and am already shaking my head. Do cis men actually think that menstruation is laying an egg?

@Jenora Feuer

Alice, smart girl that she is, changes the subject. After all, there really is only one way to stop growing older.

Nobody really wants to grow old, but it’s better than the alternative.

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

@ Bookworm, Distracted, anyone I’ve missed.

Thank you for the heads – ups.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

@Alan : I’ll take all the goods news I can.

It’s not unrealistic, since the army already flat out refused to help Trump with his coup in Portland.

Krasnaya Koshka
Krasnaya Koshka
1 year ago

Samantha the longtime lurker said exactly what I was thinking! How does someone keep so many old quotes in their mind? (Your whole comment was spot on to my mind, Samantha, but this stood out.)

I get it that everyone here is done with Lenona– and I was done with Lenona with her “lesbians don’t do one night stands” when, yes!, we do, in huge quantities and we generally all remain friends thirty years later IME–but she reminds me of my Oma (great-grandma). So my sentimentality rules here.

My Oma (the very rock of my young life) was mired in “old” thinking. She’d plop some “truth bomb” from some article and we’d have a lively conversation about it. It was bonding for both of us. I, being a dyke at a very early age (14 in 1979) and she being from Germany (72).

I was young and very willing to teach my Oma about being gay. She taught me a lot too. She said some really craptastic things about lesbians but in the end embraced me.

Lenona doesn’t seem to be able to clearly state her own personal views and so relies on quotes and articles.

Samantha

Also what is your angle?

That’s what I want to know too. I am older and really, super tired of teaching people to be nice to everyone not exactly like themselves, but I have reserves if someone deserves them.

I 100% agree with Buttercup Q. Skullpants and weirwoodtreehugger as I have for years.

I was a model child, my brother was not. You can’t magically have well-behaving children. I don’t even notice children acting up because here in Russia, kids are allowed to just run around in restaurants. Maybe not in “high end” restaurants but in general they are. I don’t even notice them, except when I play with them.

Imagine a couple who have an anniversary and they are so in love and they have kids. They try to get a babysitter and maybe it falls through, so they are “stuck” with their kids.

I am child-free but I have empathy.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

@Naglfar

I am no longer surprised at the misconceptions regarding menstruation. A few years back I read the account of a woman who was an assistant to a (male) state senator, and before they started with their one-on-one meeting, she wanted to duck out, tactfully telling him it was that time of the month. He proceeded to tell her that she needed to manage things more professionally, basically a version of “you should’ve gone earlier.” She explained to him that menstrual flow wasn’t under voluntary control, and if he didn’t excuse her, she was likely to have blood and tissue go through her clothes and onto the upholstery. He was horrified. Nobody had ever told him that menstruating people can’t just “hold it” when it comes to menstrual flow. I WISH. I used to refer to my heavy days as “birthing alien slime babies.”

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@VP
That reminds me a bit of a story from ObGyn Jen Gunter, where she had to call a state senator to ask about an abortion statute (she had a patient at high risk of kidney failure who needed an abortion late in the pregnancy) only to find that the male state senator was completely clueless about how uteruses work and didn’t actually know what the law he signed meant.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
1 year ago

@Alan

Belated, but I feel like the poll numbers for 2016 vs 2020 say everything one needs to know about misogyny in the military.

When Clinton first ran for President back in 2008, I was terrified that she’d get murdered by her own Secret Service bodyguards a la Indira Gandhi. When I voted for Warren this year I didn’t have such fears for her, but I wonder now if I should have.

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
1 year ago

In the discussion of children’s reactions to trans people, I think it’s important to recognize that ‘children’ and ‘trans people’ are not discrete groups—children can, in fact, be transgender.

This makes letting children know that being trans is a possibility all the more important.

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