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Links: Jezebel on Reddit’s Jailbait drama

Jezebel’s Anna North has an interesting piece up on the return of Reddit’s ultra-skeezy Jailbait subreddit – and on the surprising number of vocal redditors who think that pedophilia ephebophilia is perfectly “natural.”

Oh, and here’s the Men’s Rights subreddit’s response to the Jezebel piece.

 

 

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Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

Never mind that some of the most harassed women in the world wear burqas, no, sexual harassment is purely the fault of fifteen year olds going out in public in clothes they see most of their peer group wearing. Clothes specifically advertised to them by adults, for that matter.

Brandon
Brandon
10 years ago

@Sharculese: Men typically are geared to see younger women as more attractive than older women. If you showed a picture of Scarlett Johansson and say Christy Brinkley to a bunch of random straight men and asked them which one was more attractive…I would bet money the average would be higher for Scarlett.

There is a limit though, which is why we have age of consent and age of majority laws.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

I think this is an appropriate time to re-raise the question of how women should dress.

NWO, care to give an example of an appropriate outfit for a woman, one that does not inappropriately sexually arouse men?

(This is fun, because he’s too Islamophobic to name a burqa or niqab. So he’s working with “Western” clothes, and as far as he’s considered, they’re all slutty. It truly put him in a bind.)

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Jesus, NWO, are you for real?

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy
“I wish to sexually excite my boyfriend. So I dress up sexy, in the see-through shirt and postage-stamp skirt of your sexual fantasies.”

Well now at least we’re getting somewhere. This statement you made, signifies you know without a doubt that dressing in such a manner is done for one reason only, to sexually excite men. That’s good, you’ve taken a baby step into reality. Now your next statement is where you slip back into feminist fantasy.
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“On the way to his house, I stop to pick up groceries. Can I expect to be harassed by men in the store? Do I deserve it? Do you think I wanted it?”

You can expect to be treated like you’re trying to sexually excite and attract any man within eyeshot of course. Calling it harassment is denial of accountability. So if women would dress modestly in public, (gasp). And if you choose to dress sexy for your boyfriend/husband, maintaining your beloved sexual agency, women would be treated with respect, instead of sluts. Not only that, but you would also be showing respect and loyalty to your boyfriend/husband by saving your sexuality for him alone. Heresy, isn’t it?

Brandon
Brandon
10 years ago

@Holly: A Burqa

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

NWO, I don’t live with my boyfriend. Do I need to wear different clothes just for the trip to his house?

If so, what should those clothes look like?

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

Gosh durn it. You folks have already got me started answering questions while giving nothing in return. So here’s my question Holly. What do you think is an appropriate way for women to dress?

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy
“NWO, I don’t live with my boyfriend. Do I need to wear different clothes just for the trip to his house?”

Nice try precious, I’ll answer no more questions until I get some answers.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

I’ll answer if you will.

I think that it’s appropriate for women to dress in accordance with the dress codes of their schools or workplaces, to wear shirts and shoes in foodservice areas, and to avoid violating indecent exposure laws–in practical terms, this means covering her nipples and genitalia in most of the US.

Beyond that, I think anything a woman wears is appropriate, and how a man decides to respond to that is his decision.

Now what’s your answer? You seem to want to be more restrictive–but that requires you to name some restrictions. Are there any specific body parts other than nipples and genitalia you think should be covered, and any you think are okay to expose?

Pecunium
10 years ago

NWO: What do you think is an appropriate way for women to dress?

Any way she pleases.

Now it’s your turn.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

So, NWOslave, is there any way that men can dress that would invalidate their right to not be harassed by random women on the street? Is a man in a speedo at the beach asking for women to stare at his dick, even if he’s with his partner? Can women be expected to not lift the skirt of, well, a guy in a skirt?

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

(By the way, NWO, you should be chuffed that we’re asking you questions. It means you get to explain your viewpoints to us. I thought that’s what you were here to do.

When we answer questions, that just means you have to listen to our boring ol’ opinions, and I thought you didn’t like that.)

captainbathrobe
10 years ago

I know you don’t want to answer any questions, slave, but I just have to ask:

What part of you being alone and childless is your own fault? Surely it can’t all be the fault of feminism. You claim to be in favor of personal responsibility. So I ask you: what part of your predicament can be blamed on no one but you? Anything at all?

Comrade Svilova
10 years ago

Women should dress however they want.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy

Hardly a valid answer precious. But I’ll answer anyway. Since you know, as you yourself have stated, women dress in less specifically to excite and elicit attention from men. Women do this freely and don’t care about the effect. Therefore, if men say nice ass, or nice tits, or ya wanna fuck, there is no reason for men to care about the effect that has on women. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

In the end, all women will be treated like sluts because they are sluts, and all men will be treated like jerks because they are jerks. Women made the first move when they decided sexually teasing men was acceptable and damned be the consequences, men countered by treating women equally shitty. Knight to king’s pawn, your move.

Bostonian
10 years ago

But captain, he cannot go after the all important 15 year old girl population! Without that handicap, he could have the relationship he wants!

As it is right now, he cannot bring himself to go after the aged 16 year old girls he sees, hobbling along with their walkers.

Shaenon
10 years ago

NWO, where do you live that every woman is walking around–sorry, “prancing around”–in next to nothing? Because I’m sure there are many straight guys reading this who would be happy to move there.

Or does “next to nothing” mean, like, shorts? Or a bathing suit at the beach? I know people keep asking you this and getting no response, but what could a woman or underage girl wear that you would find acceptable?

Why not show your cis-gendered, male-identified dad your glorious work. Let me know how that works out for ya.

As far as I know, my dad is aware that I’m opposed to men yelling “Nice tits” from their cars, and shares my feelings on the matter.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

NWO, I’m disappointed. That is not an answer to the question “how should women dress to not be sluts?”

In fact, that appears to be *puts on jeweler’s loupe, squints* a completely unrelated generic misogynist rant. Number #43 off your stock list, if I’m not mistaken.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Although I suppose this is sort of an answer:

In the end, all women will be treated like sluts because they are sluts,

So women in burqas are dressed like sluts.

…that settles that, I guess.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Comrade Svilova

“Women should dress however they want.”

And men should speak to women however they want.

Holly Pervocracy
10 years ago

Wait, this is blowing my mind.

All women (including women in burqas) are sluts, and dress like sluts.
Therefore, all women deserve the harassment they get from all men.

But… some men do not harass women!

How on earth does NWO cosmology explain this bizarre event?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Ah, I see we’re at the “I’ve answered your questions, now answer mine” part of the program. I’ll give NWO this–he is consistent.

NWO, sweetie, how should a woman dress? C’mon, tell us.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

Knight to king’s pawn, your move.

Who wants to tell him we’re playing backgammon?

Shaenon
10 years ago

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

I agree. When women go out in skimpy outfits, men should respond by putting on skimpy outfits of their own and shaking what mama gave them. I fully support this proposal.

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