We Hunted the Mammoth: The FAQ-ening
Q) A mammoth, huh? What’s this blog about?
A) Misogyny, not mammoths.
Specifically, this blog focuses on what I call the “New Misogyny,” an angry antifeminist backlash that has emerged like a boil on the ass of the internet over the last decade or so. These aren’t your traditional misogynists – the social conservatives and religious fundamentalists who make up much of the far right.
These are guys, mostly, who range in age from their teens to their fifties, who have embraced misogyny as an ideology, as a sort of symbolic solution to the frustrations in their lives – whether financial, social, or sexual.
Some of them identify as Men’s Rights Activists, trying to cast their peculiar struggle against what they see as the excess of feminism and the advantages of women as a civil rights issue of sorts. Alongside those who explicitly label themselves MRAs we find a great number of antifeminist and antiwomen activists we might call Men’s Rights-adjacent – like those in the Skeptic and Atheist subcultures who still haven’t gotten over an offhand remark Skepchick founder Rebecca Watson made about a dude in an elevator a couple of years ago.
Others proclaim themselves Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), declaring a sort of independence from women – while spending much of their time on message boards talking endlessly about them.
Still others see themselves as Pickup Artists (PUA), or masters of “Game,” espousing elaborate “scientific” theories of male superiority while trading tips on how best to pressure or manipulate drunk women into bed. This misogynistic wing of the PUA subculture has a considerable overlap with a subset of traditionalist and far-right blogs. Many of those in what has come to be called “the manosphere” — hey, don’t blame me, I didn’t come up with that name — don’t simply embrace misogyny; they also proudly embrace “scientific” racism and other bigotries.
Still, while some of the New Misogynists see themselves as conservatives, even “neo-reactionaries,” many identify themselves as libertarians or even as liberals. Theirs is a backlash that frames itself as a step forward.
That said, there are numerous posts here that don’t have anything to do with MRAs or MGTOWers or PUAs or any of their ilk. Sometimes I like to post cat pics.
Q) Ok, but you still haven’t explained the mammoth thing.
A) This is a reference to a quote I once posted from a dude who felt women weren’t sufficiently appreciative of what men had supposedly done for them over the ages. Here’s the quote, in all of its weird glory:
We men built a nice safe world for you all the the coal-mines of death, roads, railroads, bridges and tall office buildings. Its $1,000,000 spent per death of a man on a large dangerous project on average now you can just 9-5 it and call it a day in air-conditioned and heated safety. Forget about the wars we died in and the sacrifices made just ignore history or is it now hersorty? You are accruing the benefits without ever having to pay the price you still don’t have to sign up for the draft and who will protect you? The Sex and the City girls will fight off the North Koreans with their Manolo Blahniks?
Men gave you this modern world now you take it for granted we hunted the mammoth to feed you we died in burning buildings and were gassed in the trenches but that was just for fun right?
How quick and conveniently you forget who made this possible.
We gave you Leonardo da Vinci, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy not to mention countless others, Jonas Salk saved half the world from death and you just piss on it all.
This quote is such an amazing clusterfuck of misogyny, entitlement and unwarranted self-importance – not to mention historical ignorance – that the bit about mammoths became a catchphrase around here, neatly conveying pretty much everything this blog is against. And so I decided to make it the name of the blog.
Q) And who exactly are you?
A) David Futrelle. I’m a freelance writer and blogger living in Evanston, IL, and the guy behind the Confused Cats Against Feminism blog. For more on my illustrious career, see the David Futrelle FAQ.
Q) You’re against the Men’s Rights movement. Are you against men having rights?
A) Of course not. As hundreds of posts on this site show pretty clearly, the so-called Men’s Rights Movement is a hateful, reactionary movement driven largely by misogyny and hatred of feminism. It doesn’t help men. It encourages them to scapegoat women and stew in their own bitterness.
Q) Are you secretly funded by the international feminist conspiracy?
A) No. I’m not funded by any organization. Some readers have very kindly given me donations. You can too, if you wish.
Q) What’s with all the cat pictures?
A) I like cats.
Watch as ignatiusloyola attempts to defend r/mensrights lax policy on child porn.
Cool story, Dave. I checked your site ratings, and I have a new FAQ for you – what role does your feminism play in your declining relevance? To be fair, a 25% retention rate is pretty good for a guy who gets most of his traffic from feminist spammers. But at least you have us regulars to fluff up your comments, right? I remember this cracked.com article, where just about every positive comment was from an account registered after the article was posted. It seems all you need to do is use the word “sexism” and “misogyny” a few times to have some feminists crawl out of the woodwork and chunk their elastic panties at you.
I promise. Here’s a rag, use it as you will.
IR, what on earth are you babbling about? I’m not sure what you’re hallucinating when you look at those Alexa pages, but traffic for manboobz has been steadily growing month over month. Also, the site gets kind of a lot of comments. I don’t know if you’ve noticed.
John, while the r/mensrights policy on child porn is really badly worded, it doesn’t condone or allow child porn. I think this crusade of yours is misguided and misleading. There are a lot of things about r/mensrights that are far more worthy of critique.
Your website does not rank high enough to get a history, but when 75% of your visitors click and leave (compared to 44% at AVfM), you’re not exactly penning a winner. You also get a shitload of comments because of a vocal minority – if your reading comprehension skills were not so lacking you would have caught that in:
It’s hard to believe you used to do this stuff for a living. 🙂
*I’m sorry, not 44% at AVfM. It’s 40% at AVfM. But hey, we aren’t all enlightened feminists who never make mistakes.
Hi, I am new to the site. If you consider me a feminist spammer, you are welcome. However, I am actually here to read about stuff that is as funny as hell – namely these butt-hurt, persecuted males, seeking to reclaim their rightful privilege.
The only feminist conspiracy, is the fact that intelligent people seek each other out. Like seeks like.
Intelligent people have to remind you they are intelligent.
Oh you are so full of hate. Maybe when some woman will finally will consent to have sexual intercourse with you (or even be in the same room with you for more than 5 minutes) all of this won’t seem so bad.
You will realize that you are not as shut out of mainstream discourse, as you believed earlier.
As for insulting and shaming this website, and feminists:
Tit for tat.
And tit for Dave.
Tat for you.
Anne, don’t worry about FF/IR/WTFBBQ, he is just trolling for his website that not even the MRAs bother to visit.
Okay, I’m an angry person, I don’t pleasure enough women, when I pleasure enough women I’ll achieve some state of enlightenment where I’m not angry… I still don’t see whether Anne was just venting on me or trying to tell me something, but then I don’t really care that much either. Well, enjoy your little symposium.
You know, responding to insults three days after they were first made doesn’t really send the message that you don’t care.
Hey, IR/FF/PP: I thought you didn’t care. I thought you didn’t care so much you were finished with this place.
Looks like you can’t get over us.
Imagine our joy and relief.
So Kirby thinks that I read Anne’s creative expose, spent three days recovering, and then returned. Can anyone else think up another possibility? Kirby, you’re welcome to chime in.
I have one! You’re so obsessed with this place that you even troll the faq thread?
If we’re such a pathetic irrelevancy, why are you HERE?
P.S. The MRM is a pathetic irrelevancy, but we read about it because it’s funny. You don’t seem to consider us all that funny.
Care to spill more of yourself out for me to lap up, or are you finished?
IR/FF/PP: You’re the one chewing on old posts like a dog on a bone. The one who says, “I’m finished” and then comes back for more.
Who is revealing what?
Care to spill more of yourself out for me to lap up, or are you finished?
Shame on you! I’m a married man.
As someone mostly asexual, I’m uncomfortable with the claim that IR’s dickery is just sexual frustration. Plenty of people are celibate and don’t act like dicks on the Internet, and I don’t like equating his behavior with lack of bedroom success. Hell, for all I know, he gets shagged rotten every week; I don’t see what that has to do with him being obnoxious.
Why do you hate us males?
Come on mate, we must stand united against the female threat.
Since we are attracted to them, they exploit this weakness to use us to their advantage.
They always have the upper hand, they can cry their way out from problems, they are regarded as precious and special, they control and rule the relationship market.
Why do you help them? Because ridiculing males gets you a female?
Please, think about it!
(A fellow male)
What if I like menz?
Watch out! http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/3pd3t6/
wait, you’re saying that men are so weak and stupid that the lure of getting laid can actually enslave us. as a man, i object to your hateful caricature of my gender.