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“The female orgasm is literally the most selfish and pointless thing in the world,” MGTOW sex expert explains

How MGTOWs have sex

By David Futrelle

Today’s insight into human sexuality comes from an anonymous MGTOW Redditor explaining why, in his opinion, women don’t deserve any help with that whole orgasm thing:

The female orgasm is literally the most selfish and pointless thing in the world.  First, it has ZERO biological purpose and socially, dating and sex is already all about women.  A man has to make himself datable (physically and financially) then he has to approach a woman. Then he has to pick a place, entertain her all night and pretend to give a shit about her mindless nonsense, then he has to pay for the date and then, if he did all the "right things" he gets to have sex.  This should be the part that's for the man, but NOPE, he still has to now worry about pleasing her and if he fails in his final task of making her orgasm, he's labeled as some kind of failure.  Fuck that. You take me out on a date and pay for my dinner and make me laugh and I'll worry about making you orgasm.

Ladies, I feel very confident in stating that this guy is SINGLE. Line forms to the right.

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Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
1 year ago

For some reason they really don’t like the answer “It’d be like sandblasting a spiderweb” either.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
1 year ago

Does anyone here have any links to non-right-wing coverage of Jessica Doty Whitaker’s murder? I need to debunk some right-wing jackhole’s claim that Floyd protesters shot her in cold blood, but I can’t find any legitimate news coverage with Google — just Reddit and other disreputable sites and various right wing tabloids. No links to mainstream news organizations like CNN, AP, Reuters, NBC, etc. turn up. And Google, strangely, refuses to return any search results at all for the name at either Snopes or Politifact with site-scoped searches.

Is this a complete invention by the right wing, then, or is someone suppressing non-right-wing perspectives on the event from being published?

Sooner would be better, that jackhole is waiting for a reply … and meanwhile people are reading their shit and likely believing it.

NewtonThePlant
NewtonThePlant
1 year ago

Dude, sorry about masturbating, because apparently any sort of female orgasm oppresses men whether or not it affects them in any way. Also, I don’t think it’s occured to this guy that most straight men enjoy pleasuring women, or at least enjoy thinking that they are.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 year ago

No links to mainstream news organizations like CNN, AP, Reuters, NBC, etc. turn up.

Just googled myself and I can confirm that. It’s only scumbag media that shows up. Personally, that means I question whether this person ever existed.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

Admitely, it’s super cool.

I have mixed feeling about removing, say, statues of Louis XIV* in France to replace them by anything else, but once a statue have been toppled down, that kind of project is cool.

* AKA a mostly negative figure in history, but not one whose legacy is entirely and only built on racism and exploitation, only partially.

vaiyt
1 year ago

“How dare other people besides me have needs and wants. That’s so selfish.”

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
1 year ago

And using Fishy Goat’s link, I find this about the shooting on that news site:

https://cbs4indy.com/news/crime/indy-mother-murdered-along-downtown-canal-marking-2nd-homicide-along-the-canal-in-1-week/

Not sure if this helps you any or not, Surplus. I should note that there seems to be nothing about this murder in the Indianapolis Star, though that could be down to me not using the right search terms too. Or the dates when this happened being just a hair too far in the past for a free search to turn up.

ETA: I did find a reference there in the state paper, but it was just a small blurb mentioning it alongside a few other incidents that night. Nothing more.

In case anyone was curious about that.

Lenona
Lenona
1 year ago

In all fairness, let’s assume that the Poor Man doesn’t quite understand the difference between being kind and considerate in bed (as in, taking turns, or learning to prevent premature ejaculation so she’ll have enough time too) and “making” a woman come.

From sexologist Eleanor Hamilton’s 1978 book “Sex, with Love”:

“Myth: A man has to ‘make’ a girl come. It’s the man’s responsibility to ‘bring’ the woman. The truth is that unless a woman can ‘bring’ herself, she has a poor chance of ‘coming’ with any man. Orgasm is something that each partner is responsible for and something they share together, as they would a wonderful dance requiring skill from both. No one would expect a dancer, for example, to create a fine ballet with a partner who had never practiced walking, let alone dancing. A man can be a willing and patient teacher, and he can learn how a woman likes to be made love to, but he cannot ‘make’ her ‘come.’ She has to do that for herself.”

Lenona
Lenona
1 year ago

And it’s REALLY time for parents and teachers to step up and teach, one way or another, that once boys AND girls start going to school, their job is no longer to have mindless fun, it’s to become good citizens who actually take pride in giving more than they take. What’s more, no one is entitled to happiness. The Declaration of Independence says we’re only entitled to pursue it. Presumably not at the expense of others’ happiness.

I.e., maybe virgin teen boys wouldn’t be so miserable if they could be taught to take pride in long-term goals more than anything else, even if they swear they never will marry. Plus, there really are a ton of reasons today for young women to say “no” to one-night stands across the board – COVID, for starters. Or maybe they don’t want the details of last night blabbed all over Facebook. Or…

Lenona
Lenona
1 year ago

Finally – if this is overkill, forgive me:

I’m sure plenty of boys have been forced to listen to long lists of what it’s not legal to do, and silently, they were steaming and wanting to ask “well, what legal rights DO boys have, whether girls approve or not?”

I can think of seven, at least. (Let me know, in this thread, if you’d like the whole list.)

1. Every boy and man has the right not to date a girl or a woman more than once – or even once – if she doesn’t meet his “needs.” What is often not civilized is letting people know in detail what his “needs” are, since chances are many women AND men will think he’s a jerk for having them. In other words, if you’re a man and your rule is that you don’t date anyone who doesn’t look like a fashion model or anyone who won’t sleep with you on the first date – hell, BEFORE the first date – that is your right, but keep it to yourself. I.e., don’t put it in so many words. After all, if all men had those standards, women would figure out pretty quickly what was going on without being told. How they might react is another matter.

2. A man has the right to expect to take turns paying for dates and to refuse to date women who won’t do this. Since many women are not used to this idea for one reason or another, it’s often best to go on a modest date first (or two paid dates) and then go on FREE dates until she either offers to pay the next dinner date or asks what’s going on. If she’s been on two or three free dates with you, chances are she won’t dump you when you explain.

3. A man has the right to pursue a sex life without any intentions of getting married, so long as he’s honest and polite about it. If we can understand why drivers get fined for speeding, we can understand why harassment is wrong.

Dana C.
Dana C.
1 year ago

pretend to give a shit about her pointless nonsense

I love how it hasn’t even occurred to him that sometimes when people date, they actually like each other and enjoy having conversations with another.

One of the really, really good signs early on in my relationship with the man who has been my husband for 25 years was that we couldn’t decide which we wanted to do more, fuck each other or talk to each other.

Lenona
Lenona
1 year ago

To expand on my second post:

While it’s true that American parents are pretty wimpy when it comes to saying no in general (really, how hard is it to say, instead, “where is YOUR money”), that doesn’t change the following facts for children and teens:

1. If you want to spend less time doing schoolwork OR housework, you have to learn to multitask better. I.e., you have to EARN that free time you crave, because you are no longer entitled to play all day – or to expect someone else to do your work for you.

2. If you want to be more popular with either teachers or classmates, you have to improve your social skills. I.e., it takes…work. Again.

3. And, if your only social goals in life are to have one-night stands and/or mooch money whenever you can, don’t be surprised when word gets around and you’re suddenly even more unpopular than before.

As the great playwright/actor Harvey Fierstein said, partly in reference to the “perpetual adolescent”: “If you deny yourself commitment, what can you do with your life?”

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