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A Voice for Men triumphantly cancels its conference; supporters declare victory

Say it ain’t so, Paul! A Voice for Men’s second “International Conference on Men’s Issues” has been … cancelled!

No one could have seen that coming, huh?

Anyway, in a “Bulletin” on AVFM yesterday, AVFM “CEO” Paul Elam tried his best to explain away this little embarrassment:

At the outset it would appear that this is a piece of bad news, and of course it is, but it is news that we are taking in context here at AVFM.

The “context?” The conference was a failure waiting to happen from the moment it was first announced. And not because of opposition from the international feminist conspiracy. Nope. Even Men’s Rights Activists, normally a fairly gullible group, were underwhelmed by the conference lineup (consisting mostly of completely undistinguished AVFMers) and a bit stunned by the high ticket price. 

Elam will now be issuing refunds to anyone silly enough to have actually bought a ticket. Which shouldn’t take long. I can’t imagine there were more than three of them.

His explanation for this bit of bad news that isn’t really bad news, if you think about it: Apparently, organizing a conference is really hard — especially, I assume, when apparently no one wants to go to it and you’re left struggling to explain to your supporters why it’s not a total ripoff, honest!

Since last June we have been consumed with planning the [the now-cancelled conference]. We have the resources to do it well enough. However, we had to pull resources that we would normally use to take on direct activism, such as cases like Vladek Filler, and run the most prominent publication on men’s issues available.

So the conference was getting in the way of your ability to harass women on the internet do important “direct activism?”

We simply have not grown to the point to do everything simultaneously. … We found out by nearly burning out every member of our staff.

Poor babies. Announcing things is easy. Doing them is hard. Which is perhaps why AVFM is so much better at announcing than doing. Remember AVFM’s March on Washington to “Sink Misandry” by protesting the evacuation protocols of The Titanic? Oh, probably not; like a lot of things announced on AVFM, it never happened.

It was clear that the most reasonable one was to forego conferencing plans and return to what we do best until such a time that we have the ability to do more. We need some rest followed by a return to our roots which is precisely what we are going to do.

Rest as long as you have to, Paul. And then rest some more.

I realize fully that some of our opponents will view this as some sort of defeat for us or victory for them.


Huh. Why would anyone see this giant defeat for AVFM as a defeat for AVFM? It’s baffling!

Whatevs. We never let them define us to begin with.

Well, that’s certainly true, if by “them” you mean “people still connected to reality.” In the comments to Elam’s “bulletin,” the site’s supporters are … declaring victory. No, really.

To “Pinetree,” the cancellation is evidence of AVFM’s “huge growth” in its non-conference-canceling activities.

pinetree • 12 hours ago Good decision! The huge growth since the last conference has overwhelmed and even burned out some. Too many other things happening right now. Next year will be a lot more appropriate.

Partridge was if anything even more excited by this massive failure great victory.

Partridge • 19 hours ago In no way is this a defeat for AVfM or the MHRM. If anything it is a sign of our impressive success in recent years and, rightly and wisely, you have decided not to allow this success to put AVfM in jeopardy by growing too big too quickly, thereby overstretching the organisation's human and financial resources.  Far from being a setback, this decision will allow AVfM and the MHRM to grow and develop at their own natural pace and avoid the fate of many organisations and movements whose fires burn too brightly before burning themselves out.  Our struggle was always going to be a long one, but whatever our opponents may say or do in response, we're not going away, and our ultimate success and victory over ideological feminism is assured, as feminism's evils become more and more self-evident to humanity, both men and women.


To the strange and excitable fellow who calls himself Isaac T. Quill, the true extent of AVFM’s glorious victory could be seen in the fact that

after 15+ hours even Mr Desperate for Click Bait Futrelopath has not managed to rush anything into print! He’s still fixated on the launch of a trailer for “The Sarkesian Effect” …

It seems the poor lambs are all nonplussed and are unable to cope! So that’s FTSU++++ RESULT!

Huh. I will admit that I didn’t spend my Saturday night obsessively refreshing AVFM for updates. And that after making the little video masterpiece in my last post I kind of slept late today. So I only recently heard about your little bit of misfortune.


118 replies on “A Voice for Men triumphantly cancels its conference; supporters declare victory”

I really hope AVfM continues to have triumphs like this. Maybe next they can shut down their website because it’s growing way too fast for them to deal with.

after 15+ hours even Mr Desperate for Click Bait Futrelopath has not managed to rush anything into print! He’s still fixated on the launch of a trailer for “The Sarkesian Effect” …

It seems the poor lambs are all nonplussed and are unable to cope! So that’s FTSU++++ RESULT!

I like how the fact that a post stays up after Isaac T Quill has seen it means that David is “fixated”. I mean, I guess once I’ve read a post, it should just vanish, like in a conversation where you say words, I hear them and we move on. The words don’t hang in the air. The internet works the same, right?

I also like that Isaac T Quill assumes because he’s heard something, everyone should instantaneously know it. If they don’t immediately react, they must be dumbstruck! I guess in his projection, he assumes that people like David have nothing better to do with their lives than pick up on everything happening in the MRM immediately.

I like the notion of Isaac continually refreshing WHtM, like the end of “The Social Network”. That’s some life you got there!

David is usually dumbstruck by everything I have to say. I mean, I’ve said all kinds of things to him and he hasn’t rushed any responses into print.

I love how David must not have responded because he’s unable to cope with their brilliant victory of not having a conference. If I thought David’s world actually revolved around constantly clicking on AVfM for news, my first assumption would be that he laughed so hard at their incompetence that he fell out of his chair, resulting in injuries that made him unable to post before the pain medication wore off, but I guess that’s just me.

@Shalimar: I love the way you imagine it!

I really don’t understand the thought process of people like Isaac in the above quote. Was it like this: Isaac checks on his fave website AVfM and sees they’ve cancelled a conference. I don’t know what he feels but he buys into the notion somehow that this is indeed a victory. “Aha! That’ll teach that guy Futrelle to mess with us! Let’s see what he had to say!” (clicks over to WHtM.) “Hmmm. Nothing.” (refresh) “Nothing.” (refresh) “Wow, this guy’s still obsessing over ‘The Sarkesian (sic) Effect’. What a loser!” (middle of night, he continues refreshing) “Why hasn’t he responded to our great victory?!!1! He must be stunned into silence by our greatness. He realizes what a Mangina he’s been. Let’s make up a name for him and say wha a loser he is!!!111!”

And really “Futrelopath”? wut. I mean, your average 6-year-old can do better.

The crotch slammer is Julien Blanc of RSD, still around.
Oh FFS, how is this happening? I thought he was under a rock somewhere.

oh HELL NO, that guy’s not coming to my country if I can do anything to stop him. contacting every women’s organisation here I know of right now.


This goes back to my stance towards MGTOWs: I’d have legitimate respect for them if they actually went the f●ck their own way.

Congratulations. Until this moment, I hadn’t realized that the world desperately needs a parody of “Go the Fuck to Sleep” addressed to MGTOWs.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)says:

@Rabid Rabbit

Omigod, yes.

And read by Samuel L. Jackson.

The Roosh world tour is coming to my city. Ugh. Blaaaargh.

Due to the high risk of mob action by feminists and social justice warriors, I will only share the venue location a day before the event on the city reservation page, which is always accessible through the menu at the top right of the homepage. Until then, you can find a map of the general vicinity the event will be held in.

Mob action. *eye roll*

Mob action: The local police will be alerted to the fact an admitted rapist will be teaching rape classes to men who fancy becoming rapists.

@ David Futrelle

I think that a fundraiser is coming up… They can’t have made any money off their book-publishing fiasco.

I know they said they wouldn’t do another… But surely they’ll have to?

First time I’ve seen anyone say ‘MHRM’. Apparently this is exactly what I thought it would mean: ‘Men’s Human Right’s Movement’.

LOL, christ.

There is no more perfect snapshot of their disconnect from reality. It’s like it belongs in a snowglobe or something.

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