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Win A Date With a Red Pill Douchebag (Plus bonus Taylor Swift/Ninch Inch Nails mashup video)

I found this video on the alternately entertaining and infuriating Blue Pill subreddit, devoted to mocking Red Pill horribleness. In it, a perfectly nice young woman relates a comically terrible date with a dude who’s obviously been reading too many Red Pill/PUA websites.

Ironically, she went out with him because he sent her a note about Taylor Swift. I’m sure he thought it was a super-clever neg. Unaware that she was dealing with a massive shithead, she thought that he, like her, actually liked Taylor Swift. I guess that’s what she gets for not assuming that all guys are shitheads?

If you’re not into watching videos, a Blue Piller gives a detailed rundown of the woman’s story here.

The unfurtunate woman should probably send her douchebag date a link to the video below; I suspect he’d be horrified that some mean person had sullied his precious Nine Inch Nails (because you just know he’s a fan) by mashing up one of their songs with the terrible Taylor.

Oh, and while I’m at it, here’s an amazingly catchy NIN/Carly Rae Jepsen mashup, which I have to say is a massive improvement on the highly overrated NIN original. (Sorry, Dean Esmay, but it had to be said.) I’ve literally listened to it four times while writing/formatting this post.

100 replies on “Win A Date With a Red Pill Douchebag (Plus bonus Taylor Swift/Ninch Inch Nails mashup video)”

The rationalization hamsters of the YouTube commenters pretending that she was the real problem are spinning fast.

Thank you for the Reddit link! YT creates in me the urge to read the comments and they’re almost always horrific.That poor woman having her time wasted like that. And is NIN an MRA thing now? That would be sad. I loved them in high school and have random nostalgia moments, sometimes. Also, dude seems like the type to hate pop music because it’s pop. Groce.

Sorry for the mispost T_T I meant to say, the YouTube comments are hilarious and depressing. I couldn’t imagine anyone having a beef with her points, yet the comments section was full of Manospherians taking her to task for feeling entitled to be treated like a queen (WTF?) and being a gold-digger (LOLWHUT). Fortunately these commenters had a lot of pushback, but these vocal few sure do post a lot. Seriously, mad props to the young woman for her poise and confidence. I’m, like, oodles older than she is and only recently learning to stand up for myself.

They ruined the reputation of games players and tried to do it to metal as well – Nine Inch Nails would be a small target by comparison D:

Shortly after I met my now-wife I discovered that my favourite band Iron Savior had ruined one of her favourite musicians’ songs, This Flight Tonight by Joni Mitchell. I think it was a great bonding experience for the both of us.

I’m taking gaming back! And metal! And fedoras and trilbies! (Unpopular opinion, I know but I adore them both.)
MRA’s can have propellor beanies and Himalayan salt lamps.

I couldn’t bring myself to read the YouTube comments, but I can imagine it’s the usual assortment of Forever Alone morons who think a woman wanting basic kindness and respect is being a “princess”.

Wow. Just reading red pill tactics sound ridiculous enough, but they sound even worse when they’re actually described being applied.

What do you think the terper said next day after that? About how he got laid on Tinder with some Taylor Swift fan?

“Phone covers are for poor people.” HAHAHA. Oh my God. That is hilarious.

Sad, but hilarious.

I totally disagree with her ‘being treated like a queen’ attitude, but the rest of it seems reasonable. Expecting someone to talk to you, make eye contact with you and not be on his phone or telling you to get him a beer is just basic stuff – that is not princessy attitude.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants | March 7, 2015 at 7:10 pm

I couldn’t bring myself to read the YouTube comments, but I can imagine it’s the usual assortment of Forever Alone morons who think a woman wanting basic kindness and respect is being a “princess”.

The Reddit link David provided did have some examples of YouTube comments in it at the end of the story.

You were absolutely correct. Here’s some of them:

So in other words, he didn’t suck up to you? I guess those long locks and skinny ass makes you someone to worship. Guess what? I’d get bored of you pretty quickly too!!!!!

“Because being treated with a smidgen of respect and some basic human decency is “sucking up”! How dare you feeeemales ask for such things of us! We shouldn’t have to suck up to you to get laid!

And how dare you be boring! Feeemales are supposed to be entertaining to men at all times!”

Why should anyone care? How many guys have you ‘swiped’ on Tinder because they weren’t good enough for you. Sounds like you’re a gold-digger and thought you’d get lucky but learned that rich guys tend to be assholes the hard way. I’m sure he put up photos that gave off the sign that he was wealthy. Good you got burned. I treat people the way they treat me. If you’re good to me, I’ll be the same, vice versa….the rest I don’t care about. Since the fact is that most women wouldn’t give most guys the time of days-so most women and guys don’t deserve our sympathy-which includes you.

“You should have known that rich men are all assholes! It’s all your fault! You just wanted his money!

I treat people good if they treat me good (but women are all bitches so I treat them as such all the time, even if they’re nice to me because OBVIOUSLY they’re just being nice to me for my money)!”

Sounds like you’re the problem here, if there is any truth to this story. You’re a dating coach? Your ego is massive and it’s majorly unattractive.

“I didn’t even watch the video, but I know you must have asked for some basic respect and thus, you’re in the wrong because wanting basic respect is the sign of a huge ego and I don’t want to put my wee-wee in you!”

Cool guy, that’s what you get when you expect to be treated as a princess on a date. Your turn to talk about stuff and not wait for questions.

“Of course it wasn’t his fault, he’s rich (and a dude), and therefore he’s awesome! You shouldn’t have asked for respect, and you should have spoken up and interrupted his diatribe about how awesome he is and how he just wants to give you unsolicited advice about your work and how much money you make!”

Basically, if you’re not a millionaire then don’t even bother dating. Yeah. fuck women.

“I didn’t watch the video either, but a feeeemale made it, so I’m going to assume she banged the guy even though she said he was terrible and she didn’t bother going home with him because he’s rich and all women are gold-diggers.”
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I kind of want to do a social experiment where a guy relays this exact same story, except it’s about him dating a woman he met on Tinder who bragged about how much money she made and wouldn’t shut up about herself and how she tried to get the guy drunk because he said he was a lightweight.

I already know the results though.

Thank you for introducing me to Amy Young. I kind of love her right now.

I shouldn’t have read the comments on that video though. How can anyone listen to that story and think that she is the reason the date was bad?

I found this in the YouTube comments:

Proof that nice guys finish last. It pays to be a dick. I don’t know who you are, but the world would be a better place if women stopped incentivizing assholes and stopped punishing good guys. That guy probably has been friend zoned most of his life, and realized the secret in his early 20’s, and has been swimming in p*ssy ever since.

How exactly is this proof that nice guys finish last? He was a dick, so she didn’t go home with him and he didn’t get laid!

This kind of logic hurts my brain.

This has nothing to do with red pill.

I love the Johnny Cash cover of Hurt. Watching the video for it, it really seems like he knew he was about to die. It stirs up feels every time I watch it.

I’ll be really upset if NIN has become an MRA thing. I really enjoy NIN and “The Downward Spiral” was my entry into Industrial.

I really want these misogynists out of my video games, out of my historical hats, and out of my music!

ej | March 7, 2015 at 7:41 pm

I found this in the YouTube comments:

Proof that nice guys finish last. It pays to be a dick. I don’t know who you are, but the world would be a better place if women stopped incentivizing assholes and stopped punishing good guys. That guy probably has been friend zoned most of his life, and realized the secret in his early 20’s, and has been swimming in p*ssy ever since.

How exactly is this proof that nice guys finish last? He was a dick, so she didn’t go home with him and he didn’t get laid!

This kind of logic hurts my brain.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-15478-Nathan-Fillion-speechless-gif-TeGC.gif

She literally says “This guy was a terrifyingly gigantic fucknugget, and women should stop giving guys an incentive for rude behavior by kowtowing to them when they’re assholes because the patriarchy tells you you have to be kind to guys no matter what.” and this guy comes along and says “See? it pays to be a dick!”

I have no words. I sincerely hope someone explained the video to him, because he either didn’t watch it, or he did and obviously missed the point.

Shortly after I met my now-wife I discovered that my favourite band Iron Savior had ruined one of her favourite musicians’ songs, This Flight Tonight by Joni Mitchell. I think it was a great bonding experience for the both of us.

Perhaps this is more her speed? It certainly does it for me:

Also, those mashups are super catchy. They improve NIN no end.

@ParadoxicalIntention

That is the perfect gif response to that comment. There’s just nothing you can say.

I love that this PUAsshole tried to act like she barely existed in person, pretended to ditch when it turned out he was waiting for her, then skipped straight to nonstop pestering after she had enough of his rude ass. A note to “play it aloof” d-bags, if you’re desperate, there’s nothing you can do to hide your desperation. You just end up looking like an obvious fool trying to strategize his way into someone’s pants.

That date was shitty, but I also winced when she said women have to stop supporting that behavior, as if to blame other women for this guy’s behavior. That dude is a douchebag, but it’s not a woman’s fault.

vbillings I think this “treat women like dirt = success with the ladies” is an myth that guys tell each other. I remember guys in high school telling each other this little trick. It may pay off once in a while with a very insecure woman but I don’t think that happens very often. I wouldn’t even say “pay off” – more like once in a while a woman with low self worth is willing to overlook these insults and incidences of disrespect.

@WWTH

Yes, that is an amazing cover. Probably much better than the original (I haven’t heard the original, but one if Johnny Cash at his most amazing and the other isn’t, so it is a good bet). And yes, it does come across as a man trying to come to terms with his immediate death.

These are the same kinds of twat-waddles who don’t think they owe any other types of people ( PoC, disabled, ) basic human respect because…reasons. And yet, are always crying about how none of these people ever gives them what they want, listens to them, respects them, or allows them have their way. So basically, they just want free stuff, without having to offer anything in return.

They call courtesy, sucking up or kissing ass and that’s just too much effort to get what they want and people should just want to do things for them.

I used to think this way.
When I was twelve.
Then I grew up and learned that sometimes just plain, old, basic courtesy can open a world of doors for you. If you’re courteous and sincerely polite, people will actually be nice to you.

Apparently people like this have never heard the phrase…You can catch more flies with honey, than you can with vinegar. Had he treated her like a queen, she would not now be making videos about what a massive douchweasel he was.

Just Wow!

The part when he asks her to go get champagne and she says no, his response was “why? Are you scared?” Or something of that sort and that is just such a major red flag (everything else is too).

Fnoicby: I think the key words in your sentence is …High School. I guess you’re right, once such a person has found the proper victim, that’s a tactic that might work, right up until she wakes up and realizes what the Hell he just did.

If that’s the way such men conduct their affairs with women, then it’s no wonder at all that they’re still single. Once their victim has gotten herself all sorted out, it’s all over.

(I haven’t heard the original, but one if Johnny Cash at his most amazing and the other isn’t, so it is a good bet)

Here’s the original:
http://youtu.be/66GHz-H4k6M

Since Trent Reznor was not even 30 when he did the song, it has less a feeling of coming to grips with mortality and more a feeling of youthful (w)angst.

Apparently people like this have never heard the phrase…You can catch more flies with honey, than you can with vinegar.

Oh, they’ve probably heard it. But they’ve also heard that flies are attracted to shit, so they try that first.

Technically, balsalmic vinegar will attract more flies than honey will. /pedantic nitpick

dude, you are so wrong about Nine Inch Nails. Also, Reznor seems to be a feminists, so he shouldn’t be associated with these posers.

Hurt always struck me as someone’s final thoughts as they die by suicide.

The previous track is about suicide which lends support I think. The song itself is more general regret though

I tried to listen to the album again a month ago and I think I have changed too much to get the same feelings from as I did in high school. Hurt still resonates with me though.

I was a teenager when the original Hurt came out, and I was angsty as all get out, so I appreciate it. But I think Johnny Cash brought so more depth to it.

And I’m saying that as someone who generally isn’t a fan of country music. Cash is the only one I like.

Also a fan of Nine Inch Nails, at least I was throughout my angsty twenties.

My favorite part is where he makes a show of walking away, then hangs around outside waiting for her to come after him, then barrages her with text messages. Yup, that guy did a great job of being mean and moody.

Then I grew up and learned that sometimes just plain, old, basic courtesy can open a world of doors for you. If you’re courteous and sincerely polite, people will actually be nice to you.

Many weeks after the event, my then girlfriend (now wife) said that the earliest thing that made her seriously think that I might be a keeper was that we were in a restaurant on our second date and the waiter made a mistake, and I apparently dealt with it in a really sweet and understanding way.

I don’t remember this at all, because being nice to waiting staff is completely normal for me, but in her experience it’s apparently not at all unusual for men to be really overtly obnoxious to waiters (even if they’ve done nothing remotely to deserve it), presumably to demonstrate some kind of Assertive Manly Personality in order to really impress the woman that they’re with. I wonder how often this actually works?

I loved the part of the story where he basically runs out on his date and expects her to come running after him. Hahahahaha.

This mashup.. yeah.

vbillings | March 7, 2015 at 11:32 pm

That date was shitty, but I also winced when she said women have to stop supporting that behavior, as if to blame other women for this guy’s behavior. That dude is a douchebag, but it’s not a woman’s fault.

I don’t think she was going for “it’s a woman’s fault”, so much as maybe that she wants women to love themselves more and stop putting up with that because they deserve better? That’s how I took it, though I can understand why you’d feel that way about what she said.

It’s kind of like I saw a video where a woman was telling other women to stop faking orgasms to spare a dude’s feelings in bed because that way he’d get better at sex instead of just doing what he thinks is cool and forgetting all about his partner. Maybe he’d see that she’s not that into it and he’d either leave or try to do better.

In this case, she’s asking women to stop letting this kind of shitty behavior slide by dating this guy and/or “putting out” for him to reward him for his shitty behavior. I think once word gets around that there are enough women out there who aren’t going to put up with PUA bullshit, they’ll get the idea and whine themselves to a life of solitude.

And in the meantime, it helps build up confidence for women who might not have as much to learn when to say “no” to behaviors that make them uncomfortable.

OTOH, there’s always the threat of violence and stalking from men who don’t think “no” is a response that’s okay for them to get, and there’s always that thought in the backs of women’s minds, so, while it sickens me that this has to be a thing, you should always judge the situation first.

Muh. Word salad. Sorry if this came off awkward.

@ParadoxicalIntention (March 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm):

Proof that nice guys finish last.  It pays to be a dick.  I don’t know who you are, but the world would be a better place if women stopped incentivizing assholes and stopped punishing good guys.  That guy probably has been friend zoned most of his life, and realized the secret in his early 20’s, and has been swimming in p*ssy ever since.

If a dude’s Nice Guy™-itis flares up and creates delusions of friendship/romance/sex for basic human decency, then metastasizes into PUA asshole-ishness, he should instantly be quarantined in a zone sans friends and sex lest he infect someone else.

And its not like Amy Young didn’t give the PUA/MRA disciple chance after chance to acquit himself until he absolutely, without a doubt proved dating, friendship, and sex with humans (not to mention simple courtesy) isn’t for velociraptors.

The part when he asks her to go get champagne and she says no, his response was “why? Are you scared?” Or something of that sort and that is just such a major red flag (everything else is too).

^^This. Or any variation on “Don’t worry, I won’t hurt you/I’m not gonna rape you, geez, relax.” It all boils down to “Let me argue and shame you out of your comfort zone so I can get my dick wet, because that’s way more important”. Why would you trust someone who views your well-being as an obstacle to his pleasure?

I get really skeeved out when a guy says something like that, even as a joke. It means he at least has it in his mind that he COULD rape or hurt me. And that’s supposed to be reassuring??

@tooimpurenangel
My husband absolutely rocked a fedora on our wedding day. The douchebros don’t get to claim any innocent clothing item, hobby, musical genre or anything else as their own clubhouse.

I love my Fedora and I will not give it up because some douchebags use it, too. If someone has bad experience with guys wearing one, that’s totally fine and I understand that (even support it, their choice, not mine), but I am quite sure enough people will be able to see beyond the hat (or below, in that case).

Wetherby, I always watched how a date treated the wait staff/box office staff/ticket taker, etc. Chances are good that a truly nice person will treat everyone well, even those he’s /she’s not trying to impress.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. PUA tactics are not about the women they are supposedly trying to sleep with. It’s about the men they are trying to win homosocial approval from. It’s about a culture of guys terrified they don’t meet the standards of toxic masculinity because they are nerdy or feel they haven’t had sex enough or once had a passing thought that wasn’t about sports and guns or whatever fear their mind has latched onto who desperately feel they need to do something to fix that and prove to other toxic masculinity worshipping douchebags that they too are manly, well sexed, not gay, not an honorary woman and other categories that are strongly punished in this toxic culture.

So the point isn’t to sleep with a woman. It’s about being seen as being abusive towards her, being above this evil she-creature they blame their failures in masculinity on (because if they were being laid enough and had a woman reinforcing their rugged masculinity with her meek subservience then maybe they wouldn’t be scared all the time that their man-card will be revoked*). Because resistance to perceived femininity is seen as the best way to prove toxic masculinity as its defined as the absence of girlyness.

And this often pairs with fear of showing any vulnerability. Because emotions are girly, because baring your heart and risking rejection is girly, because being uncomfortable in any way is girly, so one is just to bury all that down and once they are all the manly then they will be rewarded with the rewards of manliness (women, consistent support, societal approval) that they believe are handed out to the winners of toxic masculinity. And this leads to these men constantly feeling like they are never manly enough and need to up their game in being shitty to women in the hopes of reaping the eventual reward, not aware that women want nothing to do with what they’ve deemed manly to be and that it fundamentally can’t lead to the fulfilling relationships and freedom from fear they so desperately crave.

And this means they end up constantly trapped and ever more bitter and leads to all manner of conspiracy theory in order to avoid the realization that they’ve wasted a large part of their life on a scam that pushes them farther and farther away from what they really want. Like all the women telling them they don’t like it clearly just being secret misandrists who want to rig the game in their favor, or this insistence in women only caring about wealth, so there’s always an excuse for why they fail (it’s my lack of “enough” money rather than the fact that I’m an unlovable shitheel. Why they believe every man who tells them there are other ways to be manly is really just a slur word that’s only saying that to sleep with women. And why they believe in an entirely fictional dynamic where the mysterious “alpha” is somehow sleeping with every single woman on the planet because of just how much of a success they are in toxic masculinity.

It’s honestly tragic because there isn’t an easy way out for these men because of the law of sunk costs and even more so because they view admitting error as admission of unmanlines which is severely punished by them in their culture.

*And the sad truth is that when they find someone they can batter into that soul-crushing role, they still blame the woman for their failures in toxic masculinity, focusing on those times she dared show humanity or for whatever other supposed “failing that robbed them of their precious and fragile standing in homosocial society (not helped by the fact that toxic masculinity often views being in a relationship at all to be an inherently feminizing action that proves one’s lack of masculinity because they are “whipped”, etc…).

Also other major takeaways:

1) Techbro libertarians consistently ruin everything. Every time.
2) I wonder how long it will be and how many 30-50 year old MRAs we need to keep seeing every time for people to stop believing it’s all teenagers who’ll “grow out of it”. These creepshows are adults. And frankly it’s better that they are, because regressive misogyny and hatred of change is far more fixable if it is a problem of a group bemoaning the reduction of their privilege rather than a fresh new generation of poison.

Very well put Cerberus. I have always thought that a lot of men are not interested in sleeping with women at all, no matter how much they brag about it, and your analysis is very convincing. Bravo.

I didn’t hear anything from his behavior to make me think he was a red piller or an MRA. A PUA? Possibly. A douchebag? Undoubtedly.

As for the youtube comments… well… they’re youtube comments. The youtube comment section is our society’s Mos Isley. A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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