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Hot takes on the YouTube shooting from Stefan Molyneux, Tucker Carlson and the NRA

 April 6, 2018
  · 26 Comments

Stefan Molyneux: “She was really hitting the wall hard.”

By David Futrelle

A quick roundup of some terrible people with terrible thoughts on the YouTube shooting. With videos!

Alt-Right-adjacent YouTube “philosopher” Stefan Molyneux says the shooter probably did it because she was “losing her beauty” and too old to have babies.

Here’s a clip of his, er, argument, courtesy of Right Wing Watch.

If you can’t bear to watch it, here’s the gist of it:

It’s hard to avoid the fact that this woman was somewhat pretty and had a smoking body.  … She [was] 39. OK, she has a little bit of dead-doll, fish-glassy-eyed stare, she’s got a tiny mouth … But she’s attractive and she was really hitting the wall hard.

But this aging beauty of 39 — practically an elderly woman at this point, amirite fellas? — was struggling on YouTube and her viewership was falling. Which, as Molyneux sees it, means that

everyone around her was right and she was wrong. And if she’s wrong, it means that she wasted her beauty. She wasted her youth. Because I don’t care how many sit-ups you do, the eggs age anyway.  …

So she doesn’t have the fame, she doesn’t have the future … and she’s too old—probably—to get married and have kids.

I guess the logical conclusion from all this is that instead of banning guns we should ban women from getting older than, say, 38? Or, to be absolutely safe, 30? Then we could send them to Carousel, a la Logan’s Run.

Seems like a solution.

Fox News White Supremacist Tucker Carlson blames the shooting on “Toxic Femininity,” and apparently thinks he’s very clever for thinking up this totally new and original joke about an act of terrorism that could have killed many people:

First off, the shooter was a woman. She was female, so clearly America has a problem with toxic femininity, and we’d need to address that crisis right away, starting with more university panels shaming an entire gender. Somebody alert the H.R. department to this.

Media Matters for America has the clip if you feel like subjecting yourself to Tucker’s smug natterings. 

NRATV correspondent Chuck Holton says that YouTube kind of, sort of, brought the shooting upon itself. 

YouTube making these changes where they’re going from being a platform for videos to being a publisher of videos, meaning that they are starting to censor content here and there, whatever, actually opens them up to liability and it opens them up to a lot of hatred from people around the world.

So, yeah, yet another right-winger who basically thinks the shooter, while “pretty downright crazy even by California standards,” was basically justified in being really, really, really mad at YouTube.

Media Matters has this clip too.

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  1. Shadowplay says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    Any chance on making the smug warning on the Fucker Carlson link a bit larger? Others shouldn’t have to suffer. 😛

    Reply
  2. Gijoel says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    I guess the logical conclusion from all this is that instead of banning guns we should ban women from getting older than, say, 38? Or, to be absolutely safe, 30? Then we could send them to Carousel, a la Logan’s Run.

    Many of these deplorables would argue that 18 is too old.

    Reply
  3. Fruitloopsie says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:36 pm

    Leave it to white and male supremacists to mock, joke and belittle everyone in a terrorist attack. But no it’s the feemales who don’t know how to love. And wait I thought it was the feeemales who go for criminals and go on and on about how hot they are? What’s this then?

    First off, the shooter was a woman. She was female, so clearly America has a problem with toxic femininity, and we’d need to address that crisis right away, starting with more university panels shaming an entire gender. Somebody alert the H.R. department to this.

    No it’s her dad’s fault for picking the wrong mate to have children with and not raising her right and also she didn’t get sex and it’s all the males fault for not giving her whatever she wanted including sex and attention, Nice girls finish last. :tips pink fedora: /Major Sarcasm
    Seriously
    https://giphy.com/gifs/game-of-thrones-clever-cersei-OZ13TkVY2Ucfe

    If YouTube is stricted of censorship then they would have taken down Stefan, pewdiepie, Logan Paul, Evelion, jontron, the amazing athiest, Tommy sotomayor, etc ages ago.

    Reply
  4. misophistry says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    I don’t think she wanted babies…

    Reply
  5. weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    Tucker is really going the MRA route more and more. Next thing he’ll be advocating for lowering the age of consent to 12 and ranting about the Titanic.

    Reply
  6. PeeVee the Tired says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    A trifecta of stupidity. My day is complete.

    Reply
  7. CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:56 pm

    weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee,

    You wrote,

    Tucker is really going the MRA route more and more. Next thing he’ll be advocating for lowering the age of consent to 12 and ranting about the Titanic.

    You think he’ll go the Milo Yiannopoulos route?

    Reply
  8. Katamount says:
    April 6, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    Oh, shove your bow tie where the sun don’t shine, Tucker.

    Reply
  9. Shadowplay says:
    April 6, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    @Critical Dragon

    You think he’ll go the Milo Yiannopoulos route?

    Nah. Milo, for all his myriad faults and calculation, has some small measure of charm that he uses rather effectively at times.

    Carlson doesn’t have the ability to go even half Milo. He has all the charm of a dollop of cold porridge on the floor.

    Edit: Every time I have the misfortune to see Carlson on screen, I automatically envisage someone just off stage whispering “Good Dog” to him.

    Reply
  10. Alice Wroke says:
    April 6, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    “Showing results for how old is stefan molyneux”

    51 years

    Reply
  11. Dormousing_it says:
    April 6, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    RE: YouTube shooter. So many women fit into this category – late 30s, unmarried, no children. They don’t all go on shooting sprees. This is another case, like Aileen Wournos with serial killers, where the exception proves the rule.

    Also, I don’t know why Stefan M. would conclude that because her channel was struggling and views were falling, it naturally followed that everyone else was right and she was wrong. What’s the old saying, “He who is right, has a majority of one” or something like that?

    Incidentally, that Carousel scene from “Logans Run” scared the shit out of me when I saw it in a theater more than 4 decades ago. It was the first non-kiddie movie I saw on the big screen.

    Reply
  12. Weatherwax says:
    April 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    Wait, what? A somewhat attractive woman at 39? But I thought we hit the wall at 30. In fact, I’ve been counting on it (so that I won’t experience wacky creepy come ons any more). Although it does explain a bizarre conversation I had in the park last year (I’m 45). My mind is officially blown.

    Reply
  13. brian says:
    April 6, 2018 at 7:10 pm

    say what you will about Tucker’s idiocy, but his slack-jawed, dumbfounded look is hilarious.
    also, check out the most recent episode of More News to see Cody Johnston rip him apart.

    Reply
  14. Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack says:
    April 6, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    First off, the shooter was a woman. She was female, so clearly America has a problem with toxic femin–

    Reply
  15. Dvärghundspossen says:
    April 6, 2018 at 11:23 pm

    Re Stefan Molinyeux: Here’s a super funny review of one of his book written by an actual philosophy professor (since Molinyeux thinks himself a philosopher): https://medium.com/@alexanderdouglas/the-art-of-the-ego-review-of-stefan-molyneuxs-stupid-book-4a195ab1a5bc

    “Imagine that you have no discernible talents. You are not very intelligent. You are not particularly athletic. You are not good-looking. You can’t sing or dance well. Your jokes are basic and predictable. You read the newspapers and have political opinions, but, although you may not know it, you are part of the reason newspaper editors have to enforce the standard reading age of eight or under.
    However, your need for approval is boundless. And your lust is ferocious and uncontrollable. You demand to be admired by admirable people and sexually desired by beautiful people. These hopeless demands breathe bile into your impotent rage, which soon turns rancid and bitter. Slowly, you come to adjust your entire worldview to support a single proposition: that you are a very objectively impressive person, and that the world’s disinterest in you is evidence of a gigantic conspiracy. The fact that nobody finds you in any way noteworthy is evidence of their intellectual and spiritual deficiency. If people cannot see how impressive you are, it must be because they reject objective facts.”

    Reply
  16. F is for Fro says:
    April 7, 2018 at 12:50 am

    @Dvarghundspossen

    I read that review! My sides still hurt from laughing.

    Reply
  17. Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger says:
    April 7, 2018 at 1:45 am

    Somebody alert the H.R. department to this

    You work at Fox News. You took Bill O’Reilly’s slot. Just, shhh…

    Also, over/under on how many complaints about Carlson are currently sitting in a cabinet at Fox HR?

    Reply
  18. Dvärghundspossen says:
    April 7, 2018 at 4:21 am

    I once had a student coming up to me after class (I’m a philosophy professor too) asking me whether I knew of the great philosopher Stefan Molinyeux, who had proven that there are objective moral facts. I was like uh no? Weird that I’ve never even heard of this guy? Then I started reading his book on moral philosophy out of curiousity, and… yeah. He’s like “I’ve proven that there are objective moral facts! Something loads of philosophers from Plato to Kant have tried to do and failed, but I have done it!”. And you know, some of the ideas in the beginning of the book (obvs I didn’t continue and read the whole thing) were okay, like, a real philosopher could have taken them and done something worthwhile with them. It’s just that his lack of knowledge about philosophy (you do need to know philosophy to do good philosophy, or else you’re gonna, at best, invent the wheel all over again) and most important of all his enormous hubris completely got in the way of things.

    Reply
  19. EJ (The Other One) says:
    April 7, 2018 at 4:39 am

    @Dvärghundspossen:
    That sounds really awkward. Those I-already-know-everything undergraduates (almost always male) were a constant feature of my time in academia, as was seeing how many of them tended to crash out. I’m sad to hear that people like that went into philosophy; I would have thought that it would have turned them off.

    Reply
  20. Dvärghundspossen says:
    April 7, 2018 at 5:21 am

    @EJ: Well, he did disappear halfway through the semester.

    Reply
  21. Genjones says:
    April 7, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    If this was a wider cultural issue with femininity, female killers would be common, not unicorns.

    Also, I’m 31 today, and I largely attribute my current success to the fact that I refused those engagement rings and avoided pregnancy. Sex ed for the win!

    Reply
  22. MayhemSaint says:
    April 7, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    Wow, how shocking that the NRA blamed everything but guns for a mass shooting!

    Also, is the “toxic femininity” thing just Tucker Carlson’s way of trying to prove he’s hip with the kids (read: MRAs and other trolls)? Couldn’t be more transparent if he tried.

    Also also: I hereby demand that a picture of Steven Molyneux’s face be used to illustrate every research paper on the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Reply
  23. Female Yid says:
    April 8, 2018 at 9:36 am

    @MayhemSaint

    Its his way of belittling the concept of toxic masculinity to people who believe that gender inequality is either not a thing or something very positive (i.e his entire audience).

    Conservatives hate it when you point out that male entitlement fuels most of the violence in this country because it busts their narrative of the mentally ill white man vs the barbaric brown man on violence.

    Reply
  24. opposablethumbs says:
    April 8, 2018 at 11:57 am

    Happy birthday, Genjones! And yay for dodging those bullets 🙂

    (I mean, they may not always be bullets per se but they’re surely bullets if one is dodging ’em, right? I’ve always thought they look kind of bullety myself)

    Reply
  25. Genjones says:
    April 8, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    No, nott always. Some people find their sweetheart right out of the gate. For me, it took some patient sifting before I was sure I found my one, so I don’t regret being picky either. High standards, for the win!

    Reply
  26. The Real Cie says:
    April 8, 2018 at 11:34 pm

    That Logan’s Run carousel is nowhere near as much fun as the Cock Carousel.

    Reply

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