Area man discovers that women are secretly unattractive and vaginas are weird
Ladies! The jig is up! Men are discovering that even though some of you seem, like, really hot, you’re actually all quite unattractive!
In the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, a few of the more enlightened souls have uncovered the secret truth about women: they’re basically weird and disgusting and only male sexual desire makes them seem sexy.
![EndlessPontification 15 points 1 day ago A lot of mgtow men still have trouble understanding that women are vastly inferior to men in pretty much every way. Women aren't even attractive, it's the male sex-drive, cultural indoctrination, and makeup that makes them appear to be. Strip all of that away and shave her head? Her outside will match her inside, as she'll look like an autistic freak permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]LemonZeppelin27 5 points 1 day ago I have thought about this. Objectively, the vagina is really weird and boobs just exist. But the male sex drive makes them appear to be attractive. You hear blue pill guys saying "I love women" but I just don't love women. I'm not even sure if I like women. At best, I am ambivalent towards women. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]Muginns 3 points 1 day ago They are supposed to be a support to men, and a way to give birth and/or nurture children, but they have to go and fuck it all up.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/boobsarejustthere.png)
I don’t want to alarm any of the fellas who might be reading this, but I have heard that most if not all females are also infested with cooties. Best stay away!
explain how catcalling is harassment but unwanted / unwelcome / unsolicited gaze-harvesting is not
I’ve never commented before, but I need to ask chessman a question. Why? Why do you insist on lying and wasting everyone’s time?
Easy – catcalling is a thing that objectively exists. Gaze harvesting only exist subjectively in the mind of the gazer.
Actually Chessman, I think your comment is harassment. I know it seems like it’s just sitting there and I’m perfectly at liberty to ignore it if I want, but oh god MY EYES, IT’S HARVESTING MY EYES
Do you have anymore really stupid questions Ludo-man? I have answers.
*squeaks* Holy shit chessie thinks gaze harvesting is a thing!
Willful fucking ignorance that’s what I call it. Reality is like water off a duck’s back to chessman. Sometimes I think he is a bot.
WTF is “gaze-harvesting”?
MGTOW: “Women? Pssh, whatever. I can take ’em or leave ’em. Since I Went My Own Way, they have no impact on my life. I don’t even think about them at all!”
[Woman walks past 50 yards away]
“OH MY GOD STOP MAKING ME LOOK AT YOU”
Its MRAs way of saying “We’re allowed to leer at you, but if you enjoyed the attention then that’s bad”
I have to go to work now at the male gaze processing plant where we take the male gazes and make them into processed male gazes. Not sure why but it keeps me in dinners and movie tickets. Ya’ll play nice with chessman now. xxx
@Banana-sama
OOOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!!!
It’s too late for me. I already made her one of my Trans-Goal End-Points.
Also, I’ve been told I cackle in a most evil and annoying way already without trying while playing Counter-Strike and chatting on voice.
I’m so sorry. I’m a horrible person.
Perhaps even evil, one might say.
@Dali
There’s quite a nice beach nearby my house if you should ever happen to visit, and a glut of swimming pools.
Sooo, Chessman…
Leaving aside the idea that you can tell which women want you to look at them (I promise you cannot), what about (quiet) street performers? Are public mimes and jugglers harassing you with their performance? Do outdoor non-commercial murals target you specifically and force you to pay attention to them? Are cute puppies deliberately gaze-harvesting? Can something just existing in the public space (other than perhaps an advertisement) have intent to target you personally? Now what about someone who comes up and walks next to you for three blocks while telling you how juicy your ass is and what they’d like to do with it, is that targeted intent or passive existence?
Chessman burns through his entertainment value faster than I do with my pot stock and that’s saying something considering I’m having a pretty shitty week.
I don’t think there’s any more fun to harvest from him, so unless any of ya still haven’t met your male-gaze quota, I vote ban as well.
@ cleverforagirl
I love your new pic!
I think Chessman would be slightly more interesting if he actually bothered to read and respond to, like, anything that was actually being said here, rather than yelling into his own version of this website.
He wouldn’t be much more interesting, mind, but at least there would be something to do other than laugh at the absurdity of his posts.
@ Banananana dakry
And now it’s summer, the season of perpetual underboob sweat. Gotta smear Lady Anti-Monkey Butt Powder on to keep painful rashes away.
@chessman
I feel a bit slighted. I very politely asked you some mature questions and you didn’t answer. It was on the previous page, maybe ya accidentally missed them. it’s ok, I do that too.
But chessman, you accuse commenters of cyber bullying but you won’t explain to me your version. I would very much like to know what you think it is, so I can adapt my behavior.
Please please respond!
@ Chessman
Surely you’ll respond to my post, it would be very rude to not. After all, I am talking to you. I wouldn’t think you were that sort of person.
Chessy, simple.
Nobody is forcing you to either of those things.
You understand that catcalling is harrassment, (I think) so you need to understand that looking at somebody is also dependant on YOU, not the person you’re looking at.
Basically, you are trying to blame a woman for you looking at her.
And that’s about as absurd as it gets. DON’T LOOK AT HER.
How dumb.
@ peevee
A common theme of both MGTOWs and incels is that women beguile men with your sexy wiles thus stealing their time and distracting them from their important work doing (insert something here).
@Alan Robertshaw
The myth here is that men are doing important work they take a break form to harass women. A man who harasses women does no important work, period.
@ ignoresandra
Yeah, I do find it amazing how much time that crowd devote to either harassing women or slagging them off to each other. Now theoretically they could be taking a break from their busy lifestyles, but somehow I’m not convinced of that. It’s a common refrain to see declarations of how they’re such productive hard workers (in real jobs, that matter) but can’t help think they doth protest too much.
One thing I do agree with them on is that incel and MGTOW is not just a philosophy, it’s a lifestyle. It does seem to disproportionately occupy their time. It seems, for some of them, misogyny is a full time thing and all they live for.
ETA: it’s a really obvious contrast, but Mammoth is a site ostensibley devoted to feminism and obviously a lot of Mammotheers are commited feminists; but just look at the wide range of other hobbies, interests and careers people end up actually chatting about in our inevitable, but fun, derails on every thread. Compare to any incel or MGTOW site, where interests and aspirations are dismissed as ‘cope’.
If anybody wants a laugh at Chessman’s expense, this is still one of my favourite threads ever (he’s Orange Tango Drinker).
Chessman thinks that if a woman looks good in public, that’s harassment because it’s unsolicited gaze harvesting? That explains why he thinks he’s being bullied because he’s chosen to troll here and we’ve chosen to mock his posts and then he chooses to continue trolling even though he’s unwelcome.
Are we doing unsolicited and unwanted troll post harvesting by existing while being feminist?
Yeah, that sounds about right. They all blame their annoying or predatory behavior on the women they target. We had it coming.
My cats and dog very successfully harvest both gazes and treats from me. They’re all female too. Hypergamous bitches!
HorrorFan,
Welcome! If your name is accurate and you are a horror fan, please do comment more. I always like discussing horror movies and if you’ve been lurking, than you know we have off topic discussion, often about movies.
“Explain this obvious thing to me.”
No.
calling anyone they disagree with a “troll” has become a cliched leftist cyber bully tactic…it’s become so common and cliched…the only people who don’t see through it… are the self deluded bullies themselves… who actually consider themselves the “victim” of a different opinion and thus justified in their childish verbally abusive behavior toward others…
@hey chessman!
I’ve been very polite to you lately. Why no response?
@Alan Robertshaw
While that’s true and I agree completely that their misogyny is their entire life, the thing I was trying to imply is that if someone is a bigot, that devalues their work until it’s worth about nil.
Which I realize in retrospect isn’t reasonable.
OT: This reminds me of A Scandal in Bohemia. Sherlock Holmes takes the role of a villain, and is defeated because he underestimates Irene Adler due to his personal sexism. But whereas Sherlock Holmes, deductionist, deductive, and rational human being is able to identify his failing and chooses to address it, these people just pretend they didn’t fail.
@Troll
Nah, and I’m not wasting the words to prove you wrong when you and what you’re clumsily articulating already been disproven with elegance and finality.
Chessman,
You are free to leave. Then you won’t have to put up with the horrors of being called a troll anymore and we won’t have to put up with you anymore. It’s a win-win!
@ chessman
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t your opinions included that the Portland murder victims were the bad guys rather than the murderer?
Do you think disagreeing with that view makes people cyber bullies?
Genuine question. Hope I’ve been polite in the way I asked. Apologies if not.
Welcome back orange tango whiskey person who is not a troll but uses sock puppets!
I’m so excited it’s you! I’ll be back after I read thru scented fucking hard chairs’ link. Hoo boy! 2015? You’ve been so diligent! We must catch up!
@Chessman
All you have to do is give a decent explanation of cyber-bullying and whether or not rape threats count and I will be satisfied. You claim you are interested in rational discussion, but you’re not addressing questions being put to you. Frankly I think that is very rude and thoughtless. Why won’t you answer a simple question?
(Not so fun being sealioned, isn’t it?)
@Chessman
Can you please explain exactly what “gaze-harvesting” is?
I’d love to hear it explained from your side.
Personally I prefer to harvest male gays from the queer orchard and then we can all go clubbing.
Apologies for pathetic pun, but Chessman has had all the sensible answers from me I am prepared to give and now I am taking the piss all the way down.
@SFHC thanks a lot, now I have more WHTM threads to read and can continue to avoid housework! Win/win! 😀
Hey everybody! chessman is totally orange tango drinker pissy pissy troll boy that seems to usually get topics derailed on to male circumcision. He has been for a couple years now. He’s the worst sea lioning liar liar and just shits all over every thing he touches. There is zero reason to talk to him, he doesn’t even have good meltdowns or flounces. He disappears then goes to another thread and drops a small turd waiting for us to take the bait.
Chessman, you had your chance! But you see, some people (like SFHC) can recognize your predictable boring behavior. You could have had actually had an adult discussion with me, but you see, you’re a piece of shit whiny pissboy.
Does anybody remember other socks he’s used?
Oh yeah! Isn’t socking a bannable offence? Uh ohhhhh!
@cornychips & @SFHC
beyond all that, he’s just so dang b-o-o-o-o-r-r-r-r-r-i-n-g.
I went back to the old thread and YAWN.
Trollman, can’t you come up with anything more interesting? I mean this is 0/10 trollery, son.
“@Chessman
All you have to do is give a decent explanation of cyber-bullying and whether or not rape threats count and I will be satisfied. ”
bullying on the internet of course threatening is bullying are you satisfied
“Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t your opinions included that the Portland murder victims were the bad guys rather than the murderer?”
no – i think they all 4 were acting (irresponsibly) macho and it got one of them in the hospital 2 or them killed and one of them in jail… due to gynocratically programmed toxic male gender roles
I’m gonna need SO MUCH MORE pot.
It’s incomplete. What exactly is bullying? Do rape threats count as bullying?
“Thou hast offended m’lady and now my gynocentric code of chivalry mandates that i must have a macho meltdown”
they were victims of their own gynocentrism and internalized misandry … basically men are treated as throwaway disposible objects put there for women’s use and they internalize that view of themselves… and in this case it got a couple guys hurt and killed… hence the “toxic” part of it
MrsMarsh:
I don’t know what is so particular about rape… any type of threat of violence is bullying…not necessarily just rape… but ok if you want to talk about rape yes its violent and bullying to threaten people with rape (wtf? seriously? it would be something along the lines of harassment or a terrorist threat even if it is credible)
Still insisting the same crap from a couple days ago even though it’s been disproved absolutely? It’s almost like you don’t value being right at all, and insist solely on being very, very, wrong.
Protecting kids from belligerent drunks is toxic?
@ chessman
I’m afraid I have to disagree with you there. The guys put themselves in harm’s way, but I don’t think that’s irresponsible. On the contrary I find it very admirable.
Let’s rewind a bit. Someone was abusing some young girls. Now no disrespect to our many talented young people on this site, but they’re just kids. And what he actually said was that all Muslims should be killed. One of the girls is a Muslim. Can you imagine how terrifying that must have been?
So some decent guys decided, correctly in my opinion, that this was unacceptable and attempted to assist in preventing any further harm to the girls. As we discussed before, sometimes a woman intervening can de-escalate a situation. But the perp in this case was demonstrating that he was happy to threaten women/girls. He displayed all the signs of snivelling cowardice so it was perhaps correct to believe he might back down in the face of some other guys.
That tragically wasn’t the case.
But I’ve not seen anyone, and especially any women, suggest that there’s a duty on men, and only men, to always risk themselves to assist women and only women
So I think your thesis isn’t backed up by evidence. But I’m more than happy to consider any specific challenges you may have to my analysis. So feel free to correct me if, and where, you can show I’m incorrect.
Catcalling is harassment because the catcaller is imposing unwanted contact on the victim. The only person who has power to make the interaction stop is the catcaller (or an outside authority literally hauling the harasser away). The victim cannot shut their ears off or force the catcaller to go away. To avoid getting catcalled, women’s only option is to basically never set foot in public again.
Catcalling is also an unambiguous action–one person shouts at another. It’s something that *happens*, that one person concretely does to another. There’s no inference of motive necessary.
“Gaze harvesting” is not harassment because a) it’s not a real thing, and b) if it *were* a real thing, the so-called “victim” 100% has the power to stop his gaze from being harvested. He just has to not stare. That’s it. He can go anywhere in public he likes with any number of staggeringly beautiful women present, and his own self-control is the only thing he needs to be perfectly safe.
“Gaze harvesting” is not an unambiguous action; a woman is simply existing and visible. She does not *do* anything to the man, nor does she force him to do anything. The very concept of “gaze harvesting” is 100% based on making a guess at the woman’s motive, regardless of anything she actually says or does.
And to the more recent post: Those girls (kids, minors, non-adults), did not “use” the men who stood up for them. One man took his own initiative to scream at a couple of teenagers who were minding their own business, and other men took their own initiative to try and get him to knock it off. It is baseless and unfair to say that either of those actions are in any way a result of being “used”. Adult men made their own choices and it was in no way the fault of underaged girls.
None of this is hard, dude.
Hey, Chessman? Victim blaming is really fucking reprehensible, and you have proven to be a cowardly asshole.
You need to leave. Go ejaculate your disgusting, polluted worldview elsewhere.
WWTH: Thanks for the welcome, and yes, I do love horror (even got myself a Suspiria t-shirt to go without DVD). I’ll keep an eye out for an appropriate open thread to do a more formal intro.
I’ve just been getting real tired of chessmans disingenuous shit.
It always cracks me up that misogynists can never decide whether feminists are trying to force men to be all macho and chivalrous and go to war for us or whether we’re trying to feminism men with our evil government assistance programs and feelings talk and disapproval of rape culture (male sexuality is rapey according to them).