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Well, the great minds of the manosphere have been going into overdrive trying to explain away the fact that a man who had a lot in common with them, ideology-wise, murdered six innocent people on Friday as part of a “Day of Retribution” that he had hoped would involve a lot more dead bodies, particularly of the blonde, female variety.
We had noted cultural commenter JudgyBitch (Janet Bloomfield) looking at Elliot Rodger, a man who wrote a 140-page manifesto detailing his hatred of women and girls, a manifesto that contained the following paragraph:
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
.. and which ended with a fantasy of putting all the women in the world in concentration camps and starving them to death, while Rodger took a position in a giant tower built just for him “where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die,” and suggesting that Rodger wasn’t actually a misogynist, because he wasn’t able to get into the sorority and murder all the “blonde sluts” he had hoped to murder and so ended up killing more men than women.
We had pickup guru and sometime date rapist Roosh Val looking at that same fellow, a young man who decided that all the women in the world deserved to die because no hot blondes came up and threw themselves at him while he wandered around campus talking to no one, and deciding that “game” would have saved his life and the life of his victims.
And we had Dr. Helen trying her best to insinuate that feminists were to blame for Rodger’s murders in California because a small group of feminists blocked a lecture by a Men’s Rights celebrity in Toronto and therefore prevented Rodger from getting the proper psychiatric care he needed, even though he had been seeing psychiatrists for years as well as a string of counselors in his final days.
But we still haven’t’ heard from the master of PUA purple prose, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy. What the heck does he think about poor dead murderer Elliot Rodger?
Well, he has answered that question at last. According to Heartiste, the fallen Rodger was a repressed gay “social retard” who was also possibly a hetero incel beta male member of an omega male brothel. Plus some other stuff. I guess I should let Heartiste explain, because there’s no way to summarize his particular brand of fragrant prose poop.
First, teh gay:
Rodger pings some operational gaydars. There’s his plush gay face. There’s the “try-hard” nature of his manifesto, which reads less like a compendium of genuine pain than a B-movie script of what he’d think a guy with girl troubles would write. … And his narcissism; if you haven’t seen by now, Rodger had a stream of attention whoring pouty-lipped Facebook selfies that would make a dancing bar slut blush.
Setting aside the unproved gay hypothesis, Heartiste considers Rodger’s life as an incel – or “involuntary celibate.”
From what I can glean, Elliot Rodger failed with women because he was a social retard. That’s pretty much all there is to it. … He thought that “putting himself out there” with girls was sitting on a park bench like Aqualung. That making a serious move on a girl was quickly muttering “hi” as he stumbled past her, later delirious with rage that she didn’t reciprocate with an equally prompt blowjob. That bumping into an Asian dude talking to a cute chick, and glaring at them with his twisted angry face, was acting “cocky and arrogant”. That his effeminate passivity and lack of proactive engagement with women was evidence that they were “ignoring” him.
Actually, Heartiste sort of has a point here: Rodger seems to have literally never approached a single woman. His idea of courtship was to put on designer clothes and wander around outside, hoping that some lovely blonde gal would take a fancy to him and invite herself to be his girlfriend.
Heartiste, like Roosh, thinks that “game” could have saved Rodger, but only if he had been gotten to earlier. Alas, Heartiste notes, Rodger turned not to PUA but to the website PUAhate.
Which brings us to PUAHate … It’s not a forum for failed pickup artists as some male feminists licking the taint of their femcunt overwhores will want you to believe. It’s a hangout for socially awkward losers who desperately want to blame their failings with women on their sub-Pitt looks instead of on their awful social calibration and their inability to say two words to a girl without filling their Pokemon underoos.
Again, Heartiste is partly right. No, not that bit about the femcunt overwhores and the fellows in their underwears. That other stuff. PUAhate is indeed a cesspit. While there are some people on the site legitimately interested in exposing PUA fraud, they’re outnumbered by angry incels and misogynistic trolls.
No sense ignoring the race angle.
Oh dear. Given that Heartiste is basically a genteel Nazi and Rodger was half-white, half-Asian, this isn’t going to be pretty.
Mixed race people are more likely to have psychological disorders. And Asian men are especially susceptible to dating market lockouts. Throw in the cauldron a stew of vibrant proximate diversity and it’s a surprise suppressed racial/sexual rage doesn’t boil over more often.
Ok, that wasn’t quite as awful as I expected, though I’m pretty sure Heartiste’s reference to “vibrant proximate diversity” is basically just his way of suggesting that segregation is preferable to a society in which different ethnic groups actually come into contact with one another on a regular basis.
Heartiste decides to end by suggesting that the “effeminate” Rodger may be a sign of things to come:
The title of this post is a broad indictment of this infantile Millennial generation, which daily provides evidence that their ranks are filled with effeminate males who, like women, expect the world to cater their needs, no questions asked, no demands made. Elliot Rodger couldn’t stand how unfaaaair girls were to date uglier men than himself, how unfair life was that his car and clothes weren’t a magnet for hot white sorority chicks, how unfair the cosmic laws were to require of him a little bit of effort if he wanted to put an end to his virginity.
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good… there’s your new American manlet, same as your new American woman.
Wait, run that first part by me again?
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good
Heartiste has just described the typical manospehrian, to a t.
I vote sock, and a racist one at that. If he’s a black man, I’ll eat my hat.
Ban hammer.
And he called somebody a bitch.
I’m calling it for Erin.
He actually posted:
“What is the klan doing to Blacks today?
Black gang bangers are doing the work of the klan.”
**eye roll**
OK, troll, quit pretending to be an African American, already. It’s disgusting.
You wouldn’t happen to be Rush Limbaugh, would you?
Davis,
WTF? Go away.
My votes on Erin, too. If we get a wh*re, we’ll know for sure.
Answer my question, Davis: Are you really, truly saying that black women are worse than the KKK?
I love how Davis refuses to grant us the basic respect of not mutilating our names, even after being told that his truncating them willy-nilly is offensive. What a complete fucking asshole.
But nooooooo, he’s totally not throwing up dangerous abuser red flags with his flagrant disregard for people’s boundaries.
I’m pleased as punch that you called me a “bitch,” troll boy — Erin, whatever your name is. Why don’t you keep it up? Please, keep digging your own hole.
Yup, I’m calling it for “Erin” too. The tells are adding up. I’ve emailed the Dark Lord as well.
@sparky: We’ve got a “b*tch;” I’m calling it as Erin right now. Call me premature, but… it seems about the right time of day, too.
Hey Davis,
Are we a click of mean girls?
Do you have any chickens?
Can you speak 7 languages?
Really?
‘o.0
0.o’
You cannot be for real. Fuck off racist, misogynist shitbag. No one wants you here.
You know, like everywhere else you drag your cretin ass.
Coming in a bit late, but –
Davis, I want to feel sympathy for you. No, I really do. You know why I’m failing at feeling that sympathy?
It’s because of the bit where you gave up on women because at the age of sixteen you knew they didn’t like you.
Seriously? Sixteen? You were socially awkward with Asperger’s and at sixteen you just gave up on the whole interacting with women thing? Really? And I’m somehow supposed to feel that you were justified becoming the bigoted asshole you are now because of the pain you felt back then?
No. Fuck that. I was a socially-awkward teenager with Asperger’s (which wasn’t even on the radar back when I was sixteen, by the way). Didn’t so much as have a date until I was over twenty; married now twenty-two years, incidentally, but even if I’d never had so much as a kiss on the cheek it wouldn’t have justified my developing a prejudice against men. I didn’t really feel resentment, so much; just desperately sad and convinced that what other people had was never going to happen for me.
So I don’t have much sympathy for your sad, sad tale, Davis, and anyone who tries to base their hatred of women on being socially awkward can kiss my fat right fanny – British or American definition.
You notice, too, that socky can’t even think of a different story; it still comes down to women ignore me, waaaah! in the end, whether he’s pretending to be a woman or a MoC.
Gonna yell PUAhate forever again, socky?
What’s important here is his proximity to the water front.
Sexist, racist, obtuse and whiny.
I wonder why Davis isn’t a bigger hit with women?
I dunno, I’m still laughing over his, “Oh excuse me, I just had a client,” routine. I wonder if he calls his clients bitches too.
I may not live directly on the beach, but my lap is cat adjacent.
I’m MUTHAFUCKIN CAT ADJACENT!
I MAY SOON PET A KITTY LIKE A SPINSTER!
LOL…I will never forget that one. What a hoot.
Also, my girlfriend is an extreme sports calendar model.
She’s #2
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/05/10_incredibly_minor_but_hilarious_mighty_boosh_cha.php?page=2
@Shiraz – I don’t think people call hens bitches, normally, but I suppose nothing’s impossible when it comes to duders calling feeeeeemales gendered slurs 😛
Shiraz.
I own a gunshop, and I call my big spending customers clients.
@ Davis
I thought you worked in construction to avoid women? Does your gun shop never have any feeeeemale clients or customers?
Is it DIRECTLY ON THE BEACH?
I swear there’s been a troll here recently with this same ‘argument’ but before rancid and Erin. Someone who also shortened people’s nym’s as rudely as he could. Makes me want to put together a troll/sock database just so I don’t have to rely on my memory.
Sorry, I’m back.
I had to answer my special red telephone. It was Commissioner Gordon. He needs me. I’m very important. brb
To the bat pole!
Davis: No one really cares what you do for a living.
Why do you keep changing the subject?
Oh, Davis is both a construction worker (so he doesn’t have to see feeeeeemales ever!) and also owns a gun shop!
Such true, much believable! Wow.
Are you trying to scare me by telling me you have access to a lot of guns?
@ fromafar
I do not sell firearms to women.
I found elusive video footage of David’s Catman signal
I’m the mayor of Candyland, bub! You better recognize!
Nobody gets in the Lollipop Guild unless I say they get in the Lollipop Guild!
Nobody.
Oops, gotta go. I felt a tremor in the force. As the last remaining Jedi, I have a responsibility.
brb
Yes “Davis” I’m so totally convinced you own a gun shop and discriminate against women which isn’t illegal at all.
@ Davis
Do you have a sign in the front door telling women to fuck off? Do you tell men who have friends, spouses or children who are women to leave their ‘bitches’ at home?
Do I need tickets for the gun show?
Anyways, I’ve got a brain replacement/rectum-unblocking double surgery to carry out here in a few minutes, so you’ll have to excuse me while I sanitize and get my doctor coat on. I had a long day in the restaurant I own as well, so hopefully I don’t make any mistakes on my client out of fatigue.
(Actually I think I’mma go get some takeout; I’m thinking sushi.)
No, seriously. Are you trying to scare me with all your gun talk?
(not so seriously)
P.S.
I am Catwoman
Mayor Jedi Batman, Ma-am! You are hilarious.
Farmer Joe, is it you?
Oh really? And what country is your business located in?
‘Cause where I’m from, the USA, to refuse service to someone based on sex or gender is illegal is most (if not all) states.
Why do you keep ducking the question? Do you really think black women are worse than the KKK?
@ Davis
And what about lesbians? Are they allowed in your establishment and/or your construction crew? It’s not like they have boyfriends they can give their money to once they steal it from you.
@ contrapangloss
I think you may be right. It has a similar smell…
Ok, I’m back from getting wine…um I mean…saving the universe. Yeah, that’s right. That’s the ticket. I was saving the universe.
Who said anything about wine? Not me. I never said that. I can’t drink this late in the evening, because as The Slayer I need to be alert at sundown.
@ Lea
What time is it?
Is it
.
.
.
WINE O’CLOCK?
I never have to go buy wine because I can make turn water into wine. It’s totally true.
*glug*
*glug*
*glug*
WWTH,
I’d be a menace at the local pool if I could do that. 🙂
If you can turn whine into wine, that might be even more helpful right now.
Ok, sorry. I just got back from patrol.
Hellmouths, amirite?
What a pain.
Uh-oh, my brother just called and I have to pick him up in Baby and go fight the devil…again!
I wish I wasn’t so important, but that’s just how I roll.
PS. Making out with handsome angels, “ok” or “not ok”? I’m asking for a friend.
This is the story of my life.
Or just most of my evenings.
I’m back. I can’t stay long. I run this mysterious island with my friend Tattoo. It’s…complicated. We’ve got mysterious and probably supernatural stuff to do.
PS and for real: It just occurred to me that finding out that the people on Lost were really marooned of Fantasy Island long after it was abandoned by Rourke would have been a better ending to Lost.
@ Lea
Making out with handsome angels is totes okay as long as they want to make out with you… I mean, your friend, too.
Is your gun shop right on the beach in North Carolina, Famer Joe? How is it being a Gentleman farmer in construction?
I really, really want this to be farmer joe, so I can add to the list of professions.
Hi everyone. I’m in the middle of a super secret CIA mission to save the world from a supervillain who manipulates the weather in order to create mega hurricanes. I just wanted to pop in and note that it is easy for me to drink wine in the shower because I can just turn the water into wine.
@ weirwoodtreehugger
Is that whole water to wine thing an innate ability or can it be trained? Inquiring minds who are about to take a shower NEED to know.